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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: amarok betas? (Neal Becker)
   2. Re: amarok betas? (Rex Dieter)
   3. Re: amarok betas? (Rex Dieter)
   4. Re: amarok betas? (Neal Becker)
   5. Re: amarok betas? (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: amarok betas? (Eduardo Habkost)
   7. Re: amarok betas? (Rex Dieter)
   8. Re: amarok betas? (Eduardo Habkost)
   9. Re: amarok betas? (Neal Becker)
  10. Re: amarok betas? (kwhiskerz)

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I guess there is no mp3 support in amarok?  (Previously, amarok-extras-nonfree 
from livna provided this).




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Neal Becker wrote:
> I guess there is no mp3 support in amarok?  (Previously, amarok-extras-nonfree 
> from livna provided this).

amarok2 uses phonon.  phonon has 2 backends:
phonon-backend-xine
phonon-backend-gstreamer

xine is (should be!) the default.  If you want to be able to play 
encumbered content, you need the plugins/addons installed for either 
xine (xine-lib-extras-nonfree) or gstreamer (not sure).

-- Rex



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Neal Becker wrote:

> But you can't live without qt.i386, unless you don't want any kde devel 
> packages:

That's what multilib means.  You have *both* foo-devel.i386 and 
foo-devel.x86_64 installed.  If you want to remove foo.i386, then of 
course you also need to remove foo-devel.i386 (but foo-devel.x86_64 can 
and does stay).

-- Rex




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On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Neal Becker wrote:
> > I guess there is no mp3 support in amarok?  (Previously,
> > amarok-extras-nonfree from livna provided this).
>
> amarok2 uses phonon.  phonon has 2 backends:
> phonon-backend-xine
> phonon-backend-gstreamer
>
> xine is (should be!) the default.  If you want to be able to play
> encumbered content, you need the plugins/addons installed for either
> xine (xine-lib-extras-nonfree) or gstreamer (not sure).
>

I have xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.x86_64

but amarok-1.90 plays ogg, but no sound for mp3s.




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Neal Becker wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Neal Becker wrote:
> > > I guess there is no mp3 support in amarok?  (Previously,
> > > amarok-extras-nonfree from livna provided this).
> > amarok2 uses phonon.  phonon has 2 backends:
> > phonon-backend-xine
> > phonon-backend-gstreamer
> > 
> > xine is (should be!) the default.  If you want to be able to play
> > encumbered content, you need the plugins/addons installed for either
> > xine (xine-lib-extras-nonfree) or gstreamer (not sure).
> > 
> 
> I have xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.x86_64
> 
> but amarok-1.90 plays ogg, but no sound for mp3s.

sounds like you may be using the wrong phonon backend (gst or gstreamer)?

-- Rex



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On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:34:20AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Neal Becker wrote:
> > 
> > I have xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > 
> > but amarok-1.90 plays ogg, but no sound for mp3s.
> 
> sounds like you may be using the wrong phonon backend (gst or gstreamer)?

A related question: is using gstreamer as the phonon backend supposed to
work with Amarok?

In my case, Phonon was configured to use gstreamer (I didn't even had
the xine backend installed) and I've installed gstreamer-plugins-bad
and gstreamer-plugins-base, but Amarok refused to play any ogg or mp3
file. The ogg files weren't even appearing in the directory listing
at the "files" tab.

After installing and setting up the xine backend and
xine-lib-extras-nonfree, Amarok is now able to play my files.


Now I need to figure out why the songs don't appear in the "collection"
tab. I have all artists and albuns listed, but when I click the "+" to
open an album, there are no songs listed under it. Dragging the album
to the playlist doesn't work, either. The only way to get anything added
to my playlist was dragging files from the "files" tab.

I did an "update collection" and "rescan collection", but it didn't help.

-- 
Eduardo




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Eduardo Habkost wrote:

> A related question: is using gstreamer as the phonon backend supposed to
> work with Amarok?
...
> In my case, Phonon was configured to use gstreamer (I didn't even had
> the xine backend installed) and I've installed gstreamer-plugins-bad
> and gstreamer-plugins-base, but Amarok refused to play any ogg or mp3
> file. The ogg files weren't even appearing in the directory listing
> at the "files" tab.
> 
> After installing and setting up the xine backend and
> xine-lib-extras-nonfree, Amarok is now able to play my files.
> 
> 
> Now I need to figure out why the songs don't appear in the "collection"
> tab. I have all artists and albuns listed, but when I click the "+" to
> open an album, there are no songs listed under it. Dragging the album
> to the playlist doesn't work, either. The only way to get anything added
> to my playlist was dragging files from the "files" tab.
> 
> I did an "update collection" and "rescan collection", but it didn't help.

Confirmed, I can't much, if anything, to show in my collection either, 
oggs, mp3's or otherwise.  Doesn't matter which phonon backend is in 
use.  Collection view seems to have not much to do with the ability to 
actually play the content.  These seem to be separate issues.

-- Rex



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On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 09:35:51AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > 
> > Now I need to figure out why the songs don't appear in the "collection"
> > tab. I have all artists and albuns listed, but when I click the "+" to
> > open an album, there are no songs listed under it. Dragging the album
> > to the playlist doesn't work, either. The only way to get anything added
> > to my playlist was dragging files from the "files" tab.
> > 
> > I did an "update collection" and "rescan collection", but it didn't help.
> 
> Confirmed, I can't much, if anything, to show in my collection either, 
> oggs, mp3's or otherwise.  Doesn't matter which phonon backend is in 
> use.  Collection view seems to have not much to do with the ability to 
> actually play the content.  These seem to be separate issues.

My collection listing problem was solved after deleting my collection.db
files.

Now everything seems to be working, except for some crashes when I try
zoom in/out the "now playing" panel.

-- 
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I am set to xine backend, but it doesn't work with amarok-1.90/mp3, only ogg.

With amarok-1.4.9.1-3.fc9.x86_64 both ogg and mp3 are fine.





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On August 26, 2008 08:20:37 Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> Now I need to figure out why the songs don't appear in the "collection"
> tab. I have all artists and albuns listed, but when I click the "+" to
> open an album, there are no songs listed under it. Dragging the album
> to the playlist doesn't work, either. The only way to get anything added
> to my playlist was dragging files from the "files" tab.
>
> I did an "update collection" and "rescan collection", but it didn't help.
Yes, this has been a problem for some time. The collection is scanned and the 
artists and albums appear, but one cannot open the album '+' to see the songs, 
hence it is impossible to add a song to the playlist.



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