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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: KDE 4 - What's the Game Plan (Sebastian Vahl)
   2. [OT] DVD etc Problems (RGH)
   3. Re: KDE 4 - What's the Game Plan (Eli Wapniarski)
   4. Re: KDE 4 - What's the Game Plan (Jos? Matos)
   5. Re: KDE 4 - What's the Game Plan (Eli Wapniarski)

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Am Fr 11.Januar 2008 schrieb Rex Dieter:
> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Hi Rex
> >
> > Now that KDE4 has been officially released, I was wondering what the game
> > plan is?
>
> official plan (for F9):
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureKDE4
>
> kde-4.0 landed in rawhide today, and we issued kde-4.0 developer
> platform updates-testing packages for F-7,8.
>
> When/if we ever find some free time, we may consider building the full
> desktop for F-8 (and maybe even F-7) too.

For the record: I've rebuilt the f9 rpms in mock for f8 yesterday. There were 
some minor issues (one missing BR, two wrong listed %files). But over all it 
didn't need any further work.

But that was just the rebuilt, I haven't installed and started it yet. :)

Sebastian

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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] [OT] DVD etc Problems
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I can't seem to get subscribed to fedora-list, so I'm trying here, in
the hope that someone will have an idea....

I've been having a lot of problems with the optical drives in my new
machine. The machine itself is a quad core Intel on an ASUS P5N32-E
motherboard. I thought for a while that the problem was using old EIDE
drives, as the problems I was seeing mostly had to do with them. But
now, after replacing the old DVD burner with a new SATA model, I'm
getting similar errors. Here, for example is everything from the logs
relevant to an instance today:

Jan 11 18:17:45 rghquad kernel: ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd
0x000000000001ef00 ctl 0x000000000001ee02 bmdma 0x000000000001ed08 irq 23
Jan 11 18:17:45 rghquad kernel: ata6: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113
SControl 300)
Jan 11 18:17:45 rghquad kernel: ata6.00: ATAPI: PIONEER DVD-RW
DVR-212D, 1.21, max UDMA/66
Jan 11 18:17:45 rghquad kernel: ata6.00: configured for UDMA/66
Jan 11 20:59:31 rghquad kernel: ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
Jan 11 20:59:31 rghquad kernel: ata6.00: cmd
a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 cdb 0xbe data 2352 in
Jan 11 20:59:36 rghquad kernel: ata6: port is slow to respond, please be
patient (Status 0xd0)
Jan 11 20:59:41 rghquad kernel: ata6: device not ready (errno=-16),
forcing hardreset
Jan 11 20:59:41 rghquad kernel: ata6: hard resetting port
Jan 11 20:59:42 rghquad kernel: ata6: SRST failed (errno=-19)
Jan 11 20:59:42 rghquad kernel: ata6: reset failed (errno=-19), retrying
in 10 secs
Jan 11 20:59:51 rghquad kernel: ata6: hard resetting port
Jan 11 20:59:52 rghquad kernel: ata6: SRST failed (errno=-19)
Jan 11 20:59:52 rghquad kernel: ata6: reset failed (errno=-19), retrying
in 10 secs
Jan 11 21:00:01 rghquad kernel: ata6: hard resetting port
Jan 11 21:00:02 rghquad kernel: ata6: SRST failed (errno=-19)
Jan 11 21:00:02 rghquad kernel: ata6: reset failed (errno=-19), retrying
in 35 secs
Jan 11 21:00:36 rghquad kernel: ata6: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
Jan 11 21:00:36 rghquad kernel: ata6: hard resetting port
Jan 11 21:00:37 rghquad kernel: ata6: SRST failed (errno=-19)
Jan 11 21:00:37 rghquad kernel: ata6: reset failed, giving up
Jan 11 21:00:37 rghquad kernel: ata6.00: disabled
Jan 11 21:00:37 rghquad kernel: ata6: EH complete

Other times, with the EIDE drives, it's soft resets, but the story is
much the same in various cases. Anyone have any ideas?

Cheers,
Richard






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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4 - What's the Game Plan
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> official plan (for F9):
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureKDE4

OK... So there won't be an official release until  F9? Is that correct?

> When/if we ever find some free time, we may consider building the full
> desktop for F-8 (and maybe even F-7) too.

I miss kde-redhat. :(

Eli

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4 - What's the Game Plan
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On Saturday 12 January 2008 05:37:42 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > official plan (for F9):
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureKDE4
>
> OK... So there won't be an official release until  F9? Is that correct?

  I have been testing kde4 in rawhide and I can assure that there is some work 
to be done. Mostly in kde 4 but also in the integration with fedora, and also 
the mixed work of having some kde3 and kde4 bits presents (as there are 
packages who have not yet been ported to kde4).

  The time used to fix some of those issues as well as the integration with 
fedora (and thus rhel/centos) is well spent.

> > When/if we ever find some free time, we may consider building the full
> > desktop for F-8 (and maybe even F-7) too.
>
> I miss kde-redhat. :(

  What I remember from kde-redhat is a stable product (even most of the time 
in the unstable branch). That as most of the time the wallmark of this 
project. :-)

  The work spent now in kde 4.0.0 will pay off in 4.0.x and specially in 4.x.y 
(with x>1). So think of this as midterm instead of a short term strategy.

  Believe that the work done is humongous so there is a reason for the delay.

  Although no one asked me I should say that agree with kde for delivering 
such a product earlier than what some meant by a stable a release. As it was 
clear by the above and also agree with the focus on F9. The lessons learned 
there will allow a better porting for older releases.

  The last time we had such a change was between 2.x to 3.0 and even that is 
not a good match due to the increased size and complexity of the project now. 
So I think that a little patience for a unique moment is not too much to 
ask. :-)

> Eli

  Regards,
-- 
José Abílio




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>   The last time we had such a change was between 2.x to 3.0 and even that
> is not a good match due to the increased size and complexity of the project
> now. So I think that a little patience for a unique moment is not too much
> to ask. :-)
>

No... it isn't to much to ask. I'm very much looking forward to kde 4 and the 
great work that you guys do.

Eli

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