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Date: 2007-03-08 13:33:10
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Please !!! The truth guys. (Rex Dieter)
2. On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init 3) (Kyle)
3. Re: On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init
3) (Rex Dieter)
4. Language symbols (Bent Terp)
5. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (JP Renaud)
6. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (Rex Dieter)
7. Re: On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init
3) (Davide Bolcioni)
8. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (Davide Bolcioni)
9. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (JP Renaud)
10. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (Rex Dieter)
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:17:34 -0600
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Please !!! The truth guys.
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Hans Ecke wrote:
>> >>> Well but the flags do not have to be replaced by unreadable icons. I
>> >>> am sure it is done by somebody in North Carolina who only speaks one
>> >>> language
>> >>>
>> >>> :-)
>> >> Then offer a better alternative... (:
>> >
>> > Maybe the flags could be at livna. They are a very good solution to
>> > tell you the truth
>>
>> But not a "Fedora" solution. ):
>
> So how about splitting out a "language-icons" package? Then livna could
> override that package or supply their own "language-icons-flags"
> package. Fedora gets to stay politically correct but endusers are free
> to use the flags if they so choose.
Me? I don't consider something as small as flag icons worth *my* extra
time/effort to package separately (whether it's in another repo or not),
but if it's that important to you, go for it, knock yourself out.
-- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
no prompt (init 3)
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Hello,
Everytime I logout of KDE-3.5.6, my screen goes blank and then locks
up after a few seconds. I am trying to determine if this is a kde or
video driver problem. Any suggestions?
Kyle
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:46:50 -0600
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
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Kyle wrote:
> Everytime I logout of KDE-3.5.6, my screen goes blank and then locks
> up after a few seconds. I am trying to determine if this is a kde or
> video driver problem. Any suggestions?
subject: init 3 implies runlevel 3?
fedora core 6?
what video chipset, x driver are you using?
-- Rex
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:31:46 +0100
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Language symbols
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On Wednesday 07 March 2007 18:18:58 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:
> > Onsdag 07. marts 2007 9:20 skrev Rex Dieter:
> >> and replaced by
> >>
> >> > symbols that are almost unreadable. It is very irritating.
> >>
> >> Agreed, but this particular item *may* be unavoidable:
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages
> >
> > Well but the flags do not have to be replaced by unreadable icons. I am
>
> Then offer a better alternative... (:
The current system already uses a set of symbols for languages. When a
one-to-one mapping between languages and national flags are possible and
uncontroversial, use a symbol that strongly resemble those flags....
E.g. In Denmark there is one official language (danish), and that language is
the official language only in Denmark. The danish flag (Dannebrog) has been
the defacto symbol for both the country and the language for more than two
hundred years. No need to invent a new symbol.
Other languages, say english, are used as official language in several
countries (albeight they've forked the standards). Some countries, like
India, have several official languages. And let's not even get anywhere near
the dispute over one or two Chinas, that really needs to be handled outside
kde &/ fedora. (Although a few coders probably could resolve the issue a lot
faster than hundreds of politicians....)
So clearly this does not work everywhere, but that's no real reason to not use
national flags in the simple, uncontroversial cases.
Besides, if the keyboard layout indicator really really REALLY has to avoid
national flags for whatever reason, then it should use real text instead of
bitmaps, so the user can fix readability issues - like the clock.
/Bent
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
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Hi,
> Date: Wednesday 07 Mar 2007
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> See also
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
> In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.
I still get the conflict today. Do I need to remove the non-free and restart
again?
--
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras
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JP Renaud wrote:
>> Date: Wednesday 07 Mar 2007
>> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
>> See also
>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
>> In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.
>
> I still get the conflict today. Do I need to remove the non-free and restart
> again?
Error please?
-- Rex
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:17:16 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
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On Thursday 08 March 2007 00:43:39 Kyle wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Everytime I logout of KDE-3.5.6, my screen goes blank and then locks
> up after a few seconds. I am trying to determine if this is a kde or
> video driver problem. Any suggestions?
Maybe you are experiencing this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=224260
it got fixed for me by xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.1.1-47.6.fc6, but it was
sporadic to begin with.
Also: are you using freetype with BCI enabled from Avi Alkalay's site ? I
flipped back and forth with using it while experiencing that bug, but I was
unable to decide whether it made any difference.
Davide Bolcioni
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:24:23 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
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On Wednesday 07 March 2007 19:45:58 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Laurent Rineau wrote:
> > lrineau@tsetse ~ $ rpm -q kdemultimedia-extras
> > kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-2.fc6
> > kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
> >
> > yum debug output:
>
> ...
>
> > 19:23:19 : --> Processing Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
> > kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
> > 19:23:19 : --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> >
> >
> > I do not know exactly which package is wrong, in that conflict. They seem
> > to come both from kde-redhat.
>
> See also
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
>
> In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.
>
> Long version: kde-redhat's and livna's kdemm-extras-nonfree pkgs
> inadvertantly forked awhile back (I thought I was tracking livna's version
> closely). Unfortunately, I missed that livna's dropped Epoch(6). So while
> the Conflicts worked for kde-redhat's packaging, it did *not* for livna's.
It seems something is not quite right yet ...
Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
Should I report this ... where ?
Davide Bolcioni
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> Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> JP Renaud wrote:
> >> Date: Wednesday 07 Mar 2007
> >> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> >> See also
> >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
> >> In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.
> >
> > I still get the conflict today. Do I need to remove the non-free and
> > restart again?
>
> Error please?
Odd, it's an actual file conflict.
Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras
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Message: 10
Davide Bolcioni wrote:
> It seems something is not quite right yet ...
>
> Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
> kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
> kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
>
> Should I report this ... where ?
Try:
$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras
-- Rex
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