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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Konqueror has problems with standard search (Roland Wolters)
2. Re: kget eating CPU 100% time? (Rex Dieter)
3. Re: kget eating CPU 100% time? (Gilboa Davara)
4. starting a program with KDE login (Claude Jones)
5. Re: starting a program with KDE login (Gilboa Davara)
6. Re: amarok and sound system auto-suspend (Thomas Chiverton)
7. Re: starting a program with KDE login (Claude Jones)
8. Failed to update kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm (Clive Messer)
9. Re: Failed to update kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm (Rex Dieter)
10. Re: Failed to update kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm (Clive Messer)
11. Re: Failed to update kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm (Rex Dieter)
12. Re: Failed to update kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm (Rex Dieter)
13. Re: amarok and sound system auto-suspend (Logan Lewis)
14. Re: Failed to update kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm (Rex Dieter)
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From: Roland Wolters <wolters.liste@gmx.net>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Konqueror has problems with standard search
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:24:05 +0200
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Once upon a time Claude Jones wrote:
> On Friday 05 August 2005 9:40 pm, Roland Wolters wrote:
> > since the last update konqueror does not uses the standard search in the
> > way it should use it.
> > For example, when you normally inputs something like 'here i am' than he
> > gives this to google (or whatever is your standard search).
> > The same for only one word like 'whatever'.
> >
> > But now this behaviour changed: If I enter several words, it still works,
> > but when I only enter just one word, the browser takes this as a normal
> > adress and wants to connect to it. For example: 'whatever' brings me to
> > 'http://whatever'.
> >
> > Can someone confirm?
>
> I just typed "easton", the name of a town I visited this weekend, and it
> did a google search on easton and returned a google search list. I'd never
> tried this with konqueror before - nice. I had to enter the default search
> engine in the konqueror web settings page to make it work. But, the one
> word search worked. However, if I enter hp, it tries hp.com and finds it,
> and connects to the Hewlett Packard website - hope this helps. Actually,
> before sending this, I tried your "whatever" example, and it returned a
> google search list on "whatever" - it did try a lookup on whatever.com
> first, but, after not finding it, it went to google.
>
Thanks for your answer - what's about the package-versions?
Roland
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Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:22:16 -0500 (CDT)
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> A couple of minutes after my post, KDE hang, forcing me to zap the X.
> Sadly enough I don't have a trace to post. :(
> When I logged in, kget ran just fine.
Can I assume you suspect kget to be the cause of the KDE hang?
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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:29:27 +0300
From: Gilboa Davara <gilboada@netvision.net.il>
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Rex,
Sadly enough, due to the brutality of the KDE crash, I can't really
tell.
I can say that kget started acting up, eating all the CPU, before the
crash, and not long after KDE became unresponsive.
However, after I zapped X and re-login, both KDE and kget were working
just fine.
Gilboa
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> On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Gilboa Davara wrote:
>
> > A couple of minutes after my post, KDE hang, forcing me to zap the X.
> > Sadly enough I don't have a trace to post. :(
> > When I logged in, kget ran just fine.
>
> Can I assume you suspect kget to be the cause of the KDE hang?
>
> -- Rex
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Rex,<BR>
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Sadly enough, due to the brutality of the KDE crash, I can't really tell.<BR>
I can say that kget started acting up, eating all the CPU, before the crash, and not \
long after KDE became unresponsive.<BR> However, after I zapped X and re-login, both \
KDE and kget were working just fine.<BR> <BR>
Gilboa<BR>
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hang?</FONT>
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I want to start a program running as part of the KDE login process. Is there a
way to do that? I can't use the add it to rc.local trick, because it requires
kde to be running...
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Open $HOME/.kde/Autostart and create a shortcut for the application.
Home -> ./kde/Autostart/ -> New - > Link to application.
Gilboa
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 04:37 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> I want to start a program running as part of the KDE login process. Is there a
> way to do that? I can't use the add it to rc.local trick, because it requires
> kde to be running...
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Open $HOME/.kde/Autostart and create a shortcut for the application.<BR>
Home -> ./kde/Autostart/ -> New - > Link to application.<BR>
<BR>
Gilboa<BR>
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On Wednesday 10 August 2005 00:38, Logan Lewis wrote:
> of trial and error, I find the xine engine works pretty well on my
> ALSA-based sound system (FC4). This works well in that any
I'll give that a go for a few days, as I'm on FC4 too.
Did you leave the 'auto-suspend' of the KDE sound system off ?
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On Wed August 10 2005 4:49 am, Gilboa Davara wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 04:37 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> > I want to start a program running as part of the KDE login process. Is
> > there a way to do that? I can't use the add it to rc.local trick, because
> > it requires kde to be running...
> Open $HOME/.kde/Autostart and create a shortcut for the application.
> Home -> ./kde/Autostart/ -> New - > Link to application.
>
> Gilboa
Thanks.........that did the trick.
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Rex,
Updating to the latest kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm.
Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
1:kde-i18n-British ########################################### [100%]
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/common:
cpio: rename failed - Is a directory
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Clive Messer wrote:
> Updating to the latest kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm.
>
> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
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> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/common:
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kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fd3.1 isn't from us/kde-redhat.
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On Wednesday 10 Aug 2005 14:19, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Clive Messer wrote:
> > Updating to the latest kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm.
> >
> > Preparing... ###########################################
> > [100%] 1:kde-i18n-British
> > ########################################### [100%] error: unpacking of
> > archive failed on file /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/common: cpio: rename
> > failed - Is a directory
>
> kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fd3.1 isn't from us/kde-redhat.
Ah, that would explain it. ;-) FC3 updates now has 3.4.2 packages.
Regards
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Clive Messer wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 Aug 2005 14:19, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>
> > Clive Messer wrote:
> >
> > > Updating to the latest kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm.
> > >
> > > Preparing... ###########################################
> > > [100%] 1:kde-i18n-British
> > > ########################################### [100%] error: unpacking of
> > > archive failed on file /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/common: cpio: rename
> > > failed - Is a directory
> >
> > kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fd3.1 isn't from us/kde-redhat.
>
>
> Ah, that would explain it. ;-) FC3 updates now has 3.4.2 packages.
Actually, upon further review, it appears to be a packaging error on our
part, and upgrading *from* kde-redhat kde-i18n triggers the problem.
I'll look into fixing this.
-- Rex
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Clive Messer wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 10 Aug 2005 14:19, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Clive Messer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Updating to the latest kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fc3.1.noarch.rpm.
> > > >
> > > > Preparing... ###########################################
> > > > [100%] 1:kde-i18n-British
> > > > ########################################### [100%] error: unpacking of
> > > > archive failed on file /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/common: cpio: rename
> > > > failed - Is a directory
> > >
> > >
> > > kde-i18n-British-3.4.2-0.fd3.1 isn't from us/kde-redhat.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ah, that would explain it. ;-) FC3 updates now has 3.4.2 packages.
>
>
> Actually, upon further review, it appears to be a packaging error on our
> part, and upgrading *from* kde-redhat kde-i18n triggers the problem.
>
> I'll look into fixing this.
Upon even further review, it's actually a redhat packaging error going
back quite aways... and instead of fixing it, they've perpetuated it
into the current packages, shown by this snippet of code from their
kde-i18n srpm:
# workaround for rpm conflict
for l in ca en_GB lt nb nn pt_BR ; do
[ -d $l/common ] && (cd $l; rm -rf common && ln -s ../en/common common)
done
so it affects ca en_GB lt bn nn pt_BR locales.
Hmm... I'll have to think about what do about it now. Do we
1. do nothing, so upgrading from our to redhat packages yield conflicts.
2. change our packages to be "bug compatible" with redhat's (which will
yield the same conflicts as 1, yuck).
3. try some %%pre/%%preun magic to try to workaround it.
I'll try (3), and see how it goes.
-- Rex
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> I'll give that a go for a few days, as I'm on FC4 too.
> Did you leave the 'auto-suspend' of the KDE sound system off ?
Turn off the KDE sound system altogether, and make sure no processes of
artsd are running. amarok may try to load artsd itself on startup
before you get a change to switch to xine, so you may have to quit it,
kill the artsd process, and open it again.
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Hmm... I'll have to think about what do about it now. Do we
> 1. do nothing, so upgrading from our to redhat packages yield conflicts.
> 2. change our packages to be "bug compatible" with redhat's (which will
> yield the same conflicts as 1, yuck).
> 3. try some %%pre/%%preun magic to try to workaround it.
>
> I'll try (3), and see how it goes.
OK pushed fixed/updated kde-i18n-3.4.2 rpms (*all* locales) to testing
just now, with safeguards in place to properly handle upgrading from
redhat rpms. Unfortunately, I found no workaround for upgrading the
other direction (short of avoiding upgrading, and rpm -e the older
version(s) first).
-- Rex
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