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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Minutes Monday Plasma Hangout
From:       Eike Hein <hein () kde ! org>
Date:       2017-11-13 13:31:31
Message-ID: 6749ef16-f5b8-b6da-dc14-adfdb26af12b () kde ! org
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Hi,

notes and full log attached!


Cheers,
Eike

["minutes-week-46.txt" (text/plain)]

Plasma Team meeting, 13-11-2017

Present: notmart, fvogt, bshah, d_ed, sebas, Sho_

notmart:
* FormLayout:
** automatic wide/compact layout switch
** automatic text mnemonics/shortcuts
* small command line tool to switch look and feel (maybe useful for calamares) \
                (mart/lookandfeeltool in plasma-desktop)
* cursors kcm: componentized and in review: https://phabricator.kde.org/D8692
* resume the old fonts kcm port, taken most of the week as is pretty big/old/ugly \
                codebase, good stress test for the form layout
* plasma-phone-components fixes: wrestling with weird bugs that prevent parts of the \
ui being loaded

fvogt:
- openQA found kwin_wayland to be FUBAR after AMS landed: \
                https://phabricator.kde.org/D8752
  * Even with that diff it is still broken on qxl and virtio, not sure about actual \
                HW
- With some more use of the new systemsettings UI, I have to confirm that some of the \
                issues mentioned on reddit and various mls (I can't find the link \
                anymore though)
  * It takes too much horizontal space, making horizontal and vertical scrolling \
                necessary
  * The usual QML integration issues (bad font rendering, improper line breaks)
   * Scrolling does not work properly in the kcm in some cases

bshah:
- thanks to Riddell my pulseaudio patch got commited to ubuntu
- Upgrading libhybris on phone today, kwin doesn't start (as guessed)
- hwcomposer_window.cpp:204: virtual int \
HWComposerNativeWindow::dequeueBuffer(BaseNativeWindowBuffer**, int*): Assertion \
                `!m_bufList.empty()' failed.
- bugging notmart with various errors which prevents plasma phone from starting
- looked into audio video things briefly testing out some things, nothing concrete so \
far

sebas:
* fixed some minor UI bugs reported by Andrew Betts
* Bit of debugging why Wayland doesn't save configs (ongoing)
* Planning some useful things to do this week, want to go back to the kscreen ui work


Sho_:
* Sped up TM startup and hopefully fixed an online grouping crasher along the way
* Another libtm patch D8524 stuck in review
* Will pick a KCM to work on to help Marco
* Non-Plasma: Konversation bug fixing for 1.7.3 release; did 1.7.3 release (CVE'd \
security issue + regular maintenance); progress on search support in new text view; \
new UI fixes


[12:00:03] <Sho_> Meeting time. Who's here?
[12:00:09] <notmart> here
[12:00:11] * fvogt is here
[12:00:38] <Sho_> bshah, kbroulik, d_ed ...?
[12:00:50] <bshah> here
[12:01:20] <Sho_> Riddell?
[12:01:36] <Sho_> no romangg or sebas today
[12:01:47] <Sho_> notmart starts, then fvogt
[12:01:58] <notmart> ok, a sec
[12:01:59] * sebas is here, unfortunately
[12:02:17] <Sho_> glad to have you anyway :)
[12:02:25] *** Quits: francish (~francis@rob92-3-81-56-71-27.fbx.proxad.net) (Client \
Quit) [12:02:27] <sebas> thanks
[12:02:28] <Sho_> (curious what happened though)
[12:02:48] <sebas> visa was stuck in the mail, not arriving in time
[12:02:56] <Sho_> drats :/
[12:03:04] <notmart> aw, crap :/
[12:03:04] <sebas> yeah, fuck that
[12:03:39] *** Quits: Son_Goku (~King_InuY@fedora/ngompa) (Quit: My MacBook has gone \
to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [12:03:41] <notmart> anyways, my part:
[12:03:47] <notmart> * FormLayout:
[12:03:48] <notmart> ** automatic wide/compact layout switch
[12:03:50] <notmart> ** automatic text mnemonics/shortcuts
[12:03:51] <notmart> * small command line tool to switch look and feel (maybe useful \
for calamares) (mart/lookandfeeltool in plasma-desktop) [12:03:53] <notmart> * \
cursors kcm: componentized and in review: https://phabricator.kde.org/D8692 \
[12:03:54] <sKreamer> Diff 8692 "QML mouse cursor KCM and components" [Needs Review] \
https://phabricator.kde.org/D8692 [12:03:54] <notmart> * resume the old fonts kcm \
port, taken most of the week as is pretty big/old/ugly codebase, good stress test for \
the form layout [12:03:56] <notmart> * plasma-phone-components fixes: wrestling with \
weird bugs that prevent parts of the ui being loaded [12:05:01] *** Joins: francish \
(~francis@rob92-3-81-56-71-27.fbx.proxad.net) [12:05:28] *** Quits: LordCrc \
(~quassel@cm-84.211.120.179.getinternet.no) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:06:00] \
<Sho_> all done? [12:06:01] <notmart> next? questions?
[12:06:14] <Sho_> cool @ mnemonics
[12:06:33] <Sho_> does it integrate with a qwidget host window with mnemonics?
[12:06:47] <notmart> as in?
[12:07:09] <Sho_> kacceleratormanager works across a whole toplevel window
[12:07:15] <notmart> uniqueness of the shorcuts no, i don't have any way whatsoever \
to know what are the currently assigned shortcuts [12:07:17] <pursuivant> \
breeze-gtk 5(master) 12v5.10.95-7-gcc0d3da * 3Artem Grinev: Breeze-gtk/assets \
(12 files) [12:07:18] <pursuivant> Update scrollbar assets
[12:07:18] <notmart> all private qt api
[12:07:19] <pursuivant> Differential Revision: https://phabricator.kde.org/D6688
[12:07:19] <pursuivant> BUG: 385627
[12:07:20] <pursuivant> \
https://commits.kde.org/breeze-gtk/cc0d3da262764eff867a816dc7e728b218f2f7e5 \
[12:07:27] <Sho_> it needs to so there is no conflicts [12:08:10] <notmart> it does \
it internally, so at least it will work on a pure qml app [12:08:19] <Sho_> cool
[12:08:22] <notmart> otherwise, i think the only way is to use a lot of private qt \
api [12:08:35] <Sho_> :/
[12:08:41] <Sho_> fvogt is up next
[12:09:07] <fvogt> - openQA found kwin_wayland to be FUBAR after AMS landed: \
https://phabricator.kde.org/D8752 [12:09:07] <sKreamer> Diff 8752 "[platforms/drm] At \
safety checks for the properties" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D8752 \
[12:09:19] <d_ed> (/me is now here, was engrossed dealing with merging some messed up \
GTK patch ^) [12:09:29] <notmart> mixing qwidget and qml anyways n general works so \
badly that (like in systemsettings) can always just be considered a temporary hack at \
best [12:09:29] <fvogt>   * Even with that diff it is still broken on qxl and virtio, \
not sure about actual HW [12:09:54] *** Quits: francish \
(~francis@rob92-3-81-56-71-27.fbx.proxad.net) (Client Quit) [12:10:18] <fvogt> - With \
some more use of the new systemsettings UI, I have to confirm that some of the issues \
mentioned on reddit and various mls (I can't find the link anymore though) [12:10:20] \
<Sho_> didn't ams land half a year ago? [12:10:23] *** Quits: NeKit \
(~nekit@85.143.20.2) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [12:10:41] <bshah> well not AMS but \
rotation thingie I think [12:10:46] <Sho_> ok
[12:10:54] <fvogt>   * It takes too much horizontal space, making horizontal and \
vertical scrolling necessary [12:11:05] *** Joins: Son_Goku \
(~King_InuY@fedora/ngompa) [12:11:14] <fvogt>   * The usual QML integration issues \
(bad font rendering, improper line breaks) [12:11:35] <fvogt>    * Scrolling does not \
work properly in the kcm in some cases [12:11:57] <notmart> in the kcm?
[12:12:08] <fvogt> notmart: Yes, for instance the display settings
[12:12:14] <notmart> the systemsetting ui doesn't have anything do do with kcms
[12:12:14] *** Joins: francish (~francis@rob92-3-81-56-71-27.fbx.proxad.net)
[12:12:25] <fvogt> I can't scroll if the cursor is above the kcm, only if it's \
hovering the scroll bra [12:12:28] <notmart> there, literally zero code is changed
[12:12:33] <Sho_> the new system settings ui is just the sidebar
[12:12:49] <fvogt> Then it might just be that scrolling was never really working? :-/
[12:12:51] <d_ed> fvogt: but I know the bug, the QtQuickView for the screen \
management eats the wheel events [12:13:01] <notmart> more likely
[12:13:18] <fvogt> Anyway, I'd suggest to make the default window size much larger
[12:13:27] *** Joins: LordCrc (~quassel@cm-84.211.120.179.getinternet.no)
[12:13:32] <fvogt> Currently it's not really that easy to use
[12:13:35] *** Quits: francish (~francis@rob92-3-81-56-71-27.fbx.proxad.net) (Client \
Quit) [12:13:43] <Sho_> make sure to file bug tickets for these after we're done, \
meetings are not abug tracker [12:13:44] <fvogt> For now we changed the default back \
to the icon view in our branding package [12:14:02] <fvogt> Yes, I will (after trying \
some more to find the reports) [12:14:17] <fvogt> I just thought I should raise this
[12:14:19] *** Joins: jensreu|laptop (~jens@static-79-32-229-77.ipcom.comunitel.net)
[12:14:29] <Sho_> sure, just worried about losing things
[12:14:49] <fvogt> bshah: It's definitely AMS related, as reverting the AMS commits \
fixes all of those issues [12:15:14] * fvogt is done if there aren't any questions
[12:15:19] <Sho_> bshah is next, then sebas, then d_ed
[12:15:28] <bshah> okay
[12:15:30] <bshah> moment
[12:15:46] <bshah> - thanks to Riddell my pulseaudio patch got commited to ubuntu
[12:15:48] <bshah> - Upgrading libhybris on phone today, kwin doesn't start (as \
guessed) [12:15:50] <bshah> - hwcomposer_window.cpp:204: virtual int \
HWComposerNativeWindow::dequeueBuffer(BaseNativeWindowBuffer**, int*): Assertion \
`!m_bufList.empty()' failed. [12:15:52] <bshah> - bugging notmart with various errors \
which prevents plasma phone from starting [12:15:54] <bshah> - looked into audio \
video things briefly testing out some things, nothing concrete so far [12:16:14] \
<bshah> questions or next [12:16:17] *** Joins: stikonas \
(~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas) [12:16:56] <Sho_> sebas is up
[12:18:07] <Sho_> maybe we lost sebas, d_ed you go first to keep things zippy
[12:18:25] <sebas> ah nope
[12:18:33] <d_ed> I wrote some wayland support for disabling monitors (to upload \
today) [12:18:34] <Sho_> oh there we go :)
[12:18:47] <d_ed> Not done a huge amount of other Plasma stuff, I've had a busy week \
at work stuff. [12:19:04] <Sho_> kk, sebas!
[12:19:13] <sebas> * fixed some minor UI bugs reported by Andrew Betts
[12:19:14] <sebas> * Bit of debugging why Wayland doesn't save configs (ongoing)
[12:19:14] <sebas> * Planning some useful things to do this week, want to go back to \
the kscreen ui work [12:20:20] <Sho_> and i'll close:
[12:20:24] <Sho_> * Sped up TM startup and hopefully fixed an online grouping crasher \
along the way [12:20:24] <Sho_> * Another libtm patch D8524 stuck in review
[12:20:24] <Sho_> * Will pick a KCM to work on to help Marco
[12:20:24] <Sho_> * Non-Plasma: Konversation bug fixing for 1.7.3 release; did 1.7.3 \
release (CVE'd security issue + regular maintenance); progress on search support in \
new text view; new UI fixes [12:20:24] <Sho_> * Doing meeting from bed with a fever
[12:20:24] <sKreamer> Diff 8524 "Add a signal notifying a change in the names of \
running activities." [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D8524 [12:20:51] \
<Sho_> meeting done! I'll send notes in a bit [12:21:06] <sebas> thanks Sho_!
[12:21:11] <Sho_> fvogt: feel free to discuss the bugs more



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