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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Re: Auto-hiding panels
From:       Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-10-14 10:12:40
Message-ID: 1923585.7NAFAeZ0Mt () martin-desktop
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On Tuesday 14 October 2014 11:42:13 Martin Klapetek wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Marco Martin <notmart@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 October 2014, Martin Klapetek wrote:
> > > I'd like to change this for Plasma panels to not have any resistance or
> > > very minimal one, basically get it into a state that slamming the mouse
> > > against a screen edge will show the panel easily, without requiring an
> > > additional push.
> > 
> > i'm a bit concerned this would cause a lot of unwanted activations, is the
> > first complain i hear about autohide panels, and the reson back in the
> > days i
> > stopped using them
> 
> In this case it's the 'wanted' activation that's not working too nicely. I
> think that auto-hiding panel that requires two slams against a screen edge
> to appear is just worse to have than couple of unwanted activations.
> 
> As for non-precise pointing devices - this might actually highlight the
> problem even more - you may not be too precise with it, so what you do is
> you slam the pointer towards the edge, that's the easiest thing you can do
> with less-precise devices - drag it/push it strongly in one direction. But
> the current state actually requires careful navigation around the
> screenedge like slow movement towards it or doing the same movement twice
> to trigger the panel, so imo the current situation is even worse with those
> devices (and I'm thinking people with lessened hand mobility, trackballs,
> touchpads and stylus-tablets...what I missed?).

huh? all of that should not be needed. Just continue to move into the same 
direction and it will trigger. Especially there should not be any need to do 
the same movement twice as the mouse pointer gets repositioned.

> 
> There is also another angle to this - we could make the auto-hiding
> algorithm more clever and better handling the unwanted activation - eg. if
> you quickly go to the edge and quickly go out, the hiding delay could be
> minimal, if you stay longer or not move so quickly away from the panel, the
> hiding delay could be longer etc. Eike did some similar stuff in Kicker.

feel free to experiment with improving the screen edge activation :-)

Cheers
Martin
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