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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: VDG suggestions and wishes about the system tray
From:       Philipp Stefan <sogatori.ml () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-08-28 17:42:18
Message-ID: 53FF69FA.2060200 () gmail ! com
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On 28.08.2014 17:52, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2014 21:26:42 Philipp Stefan wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> the VDG told me to take a look at the system tray after the 5.0
>> releases, because even though it's a huge step forward, we felt that
>> there are some inconsistencies in how it behaves. My task was to
>> identify these issues and come up with possible solutions. We talked
>> about them already and think it is now time to come forwards with our
>> suggestions. If these ideas are accepted we'll deliver guidelines on how
>> to integrate an application nicely into the system tray.
>>
> so ,as a conclusion, I want to try to do a very bare bone recap:
>
> * there seems to be too many icons in the popup, especially some that don't
> really do much
> * completely hiding icons of statusnotifiers of applications gives problems,
> because makes those applications unreachable for all intents and purposes
> * however should be pretty safe to hide plasmoids: with a possible state more,
> things like the device notifier can be completely hidden when empty
> * an extra state for statusnotifiers may cause problems for unity and the two
> gtk clients.
> * completely hide vs an extra layer of show/collapse what's better?
>
> * As a first action item, completely hide really empty plasmoids (it would be
> up to the plasmoid logic to decide that with setting the proper state on
> itself)
>
> * Still open problem: less crowded popup, but still being able to access
> applications that are accessible only by their systray icon
I'd also add that Unity's and Plasma's interpretation of the spec are 
currently not compatible.
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