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List:       kde-licensing
Subject:    Fwd: RE: Re: mimelib
From:       Don Sanders <don () sanders ! org>
Date:       2000-09-06 20:03:06
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Doug Sauder the author of mimelib has graciously given us permission to 
relicense mimelib under the GPL.

I'm planning to do this by removing the current licensing file and replacing 
it with a copy of the GPL (as long as no one objects or wants to suggest a 
better way).

BFN,
Don.

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Subject: RE: Re: mimelib
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:11:07 -0400
From: "Doug Sauder" <doug@broadsoft.com>
To: "\"Michael Haeckel\"" <Michael@Haeckel.Net>,
 "Don Sanders" <sanders@kde.org>


Hey, guys!  It's me.  ;-)

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Please put mimelib under the GPL.  I would have done it myself, if I had
more time.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Sauder [mailto:doug.sauder@pobox.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 13:01
> To: Doug at work
> Subject: Fwd: Re: mimelib
>
> >From: Don Sanders <sanders@kde.org>
> >Organization: KDE
> >To: "Michael Haeckel" <Michael@Haeckel.Net>
> >Subject: Fwd: Re: mimelib
> >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:40:12 +0200
> >X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.94]
> >Cc: Doug Sauder <dwsauder@fwb.gulf.net>,
> >   Roberto Alsina <ralsina@conectiva.com.ar>
> >
> >Hi Micheal,
> >
> >IIRC you recently mailed Doug Sauder the maintainer of mimelib
>
> about some
>
> >technical issues. I'm having some trouble getting a reply from
>
> him. If you
>
> >don't mind me asking which email address did you use?
> >
> >BFN,
> >Don.
> >
> >----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> >Subject: Re: mimelib
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:13:25 +0200
> >From: Don Sanders <don@sanders.org>
> >To: Doug Sauder <dwsauder@fwb.gulf.net>
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >My name is Don Sanders and I am maintaining a mail client for
>
> the K Desktop
>
> >Environment called KMail
>
> (http://devel-home.kde.org/~kmail/index.html). This
>
> >application has been developed for a number of years now, I took over
> >maintainership from Stefan Taferner, and have put quite a lot of
>
> work into
>
> > it.
> >
> >KMail (which is a GPLed application) uses the mime++ library (renamed to
> >mimelib included as part of the KDE kdesupport package), thank
>
> you very much
>
> >for allowing us to use it. Are you willing to relicense mime++
>
> under the GPL?
>
> >(we will continue to call it mimelib). It seems you gave Roberto Alsina
> >permission to do this some time ago, but he apparently forgot to do it.
> >
> >Thanks for your time,
> >Don.
> >
> >On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Don Sanders wrote:
> >> > That looks pretty good. I would say he has given permission for us to
> >> > relicense mime++ under the GPL as long as we call it something else
> >> > (mimelib is fine I guess). Would you agree?
> >>
> >> Yes. However, I'd ask him again. Something like "Roberto
>
> apparently forgot
>
> >> to change the license in that to GPL as you authorized in this email
> >> (quote), can I do it now?", just to be polite.
> >>
> >> > If so is there any reason why you haven't replaced the
>
> LICENSE file for
>
> >> > kdesupport/mimelib with the GPL?
> >>
> >> Honestly, I can't remember any. Perhaps just procrastination :-)
> >>
> >> > BFN,
> >> > Don.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Don Sanders wrote:
> >> > > > Hi Roberto,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > In private mail Coolo told me that you had received
>
> permission from
>
> >> > > > the author of mimelib to include it as part of
>
> kdesupport under the
>
> >> > > > GPL license. (I think there was one additional
>
> requirement that it be
>
> >> > > > renamed from its original name, mime++?)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is this correct?
> >> > >
> >> > > here are some quotes:
> >> > >
> >> > > ---------------
> >> > > Roberto,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would be happy for you to use MIME++ on a project that
>
> is covered by
>
> >> > > the GPL.  If you want any kind of official license, for example to
> >> > > guarantee
> >> > > that the MIME++ library and its source code will remain
>
> free, just let
>
> >> > > me know what to do.  I'll gladly do what I can.  If you
>
> would like me
>
> >> > > to donate source code to the project, I'll do that too.
> >> > > ---------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Here I am quoted, the mimelib author is unquoted. I later clarified
> >> > > with him that he was not restricted.
> >> > >
> >> > > ---------------
> >> > >
> >> > > > And one thing I asked you in my last mail but you didn't answer:
> >> > > > Would it be OK if mime++ is distributed in a package of libraries
> >> > > > called kdesupport? It's basically a tar file containing a dozen
> >> > > > libraries (libjpeg, etc), and a general Makefile that builds them
> >> > > > all.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Please let me know if that's ok.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sure. No problem. Just a suggestion: rename the MIME++ library to
> >> > > something
> >> > > else, put my name and your name down as the authors, and
>
> cover it under
>
> >> > > the
> >> > > GPL.  I don't mind if anyone uses MIME++ for *free*
>
> software. However,
>
> >> > > I anticipate that at some point in the future, MIME++ may
>
> split into a
>
> >> > > free
> >> > > version and a commercial version that has value-added features. The
> >> > > problem
> >> > > with LGPL or GPL is that even the author is restricted
>
> from using the
>
> >> > > sofware
> >> > > for non-free projects. So perhaps I could just donate the
>
> code for a
>
> >> > > GPL or
> >> > > LGPL version.

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