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Subject: Re: Krita Developer Testing Gathering
From: "Emmet O'Neill" <emmetoneill.pdx () gmail ! com>
Date: 2020-12-28 0:56:43
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Ok, sounds good to me.
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:43 AM Tymon D=C4=85browski <tamtamy.tymona@gmail.co=
m>
wrote:
> Let's do it in January? Like you said: January 7th, 20 CET?
>
> niedz., 27 gru 2020 o 08:22 Emmet O'Neill <emmetoneill.pdx@gmail.com>
> napisa=C5=82(a):
>
>> Hey all, are you still planning on having a testing day on the 27th?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:55 PM Emmet O'Neill <emmetoneill.pdx@gmail.com=
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should wait until the new year to start, since the next few
>>> weeks are quite busy and I expect most people will be taking at least s=
ome
>>> time off over the next 2-3 weeks.
>>> I know it depends where you are in the world, but I don't think people
>>> should feel compelled to do this kind of thing in the middle of the
>>> holiday. Just bake some cookies instead, eh?
>>> As important as testing is, it's equally important that people have
>>> some time to take *real* breaks. Including habitual support-givers and
>>> MR-testers. ;)
>>>
>>> I'm not totally opposed to the 27th, but what do you all think about th=
e *first
>>> thursday of the month*, starting on *January 7th* *@ 20:00CET*?
>>> It might be a good way to start out the new year and start thinking
>>> about our plans and goals for Krita 5 in 2021.
>>>
>>> > This is great thing to do. Some how i missed it in the meeting. Will
>>>> it be
>>>> > open for only developers? Will it be for whole day?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You may have missed it because we were having some issues with Matrix
>>> IRC bridging...
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's Krita, so of course it'll be open to anybody to participat=
e
>>> if they can and want to. The more the merrier. :)
>>>
>>> Right now we have a number of full-time developers, so the idea is to
>>> take a small chunk of that time to actually use and test the program fo=
r
>>> ourselves.
>>> Because when we are singularly focused on squashing the next bug in the
>>> list, or making the next change to our MR,
>>> It's very easy to spend all of your time and mental energy on the code
>>> in the IDE, and not on the program itself.
>>> Ultimately, it does cost us a few developer hours, but I think it'll
>>> have a return of better vision, more ideas, and a better feel for what
>>> we're working towards.
>>> (If it's not worth the time, we drop it and try something else after a
>>> few months. But I think it will.)
>>>
>>> While working it would be nice to take notes, whether it's "fix this
>>> annoying widget behavior here" or "wouldn't it be nice if this tool cou=
ld
>>> do that"...
>>>
>>> After some talk, it seemed
>>>> like we should try to (voluntarily) organize on BBB, everyone turns on
>>>> screen sharing and you know, we'll just draw and chat a bit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm all for this, and starting at 20:00CET would work fine for Eoin and
>>> I, since that's around the time we usually.
>>> I do think that the diversity of timezones (coupled with everybody
>>> working on their own schedule) will make virtually organizing pretty ha=
rd
>>> to pull off.
>>> There's no harm in trying it out though, even if people just pop in and
>>> out whenever they can. I have a feeling it'll get lonely for Eoin and I
>>> later in the day. lol
>>>
>>> We won't be stuck with anything, so if things don't work out well we ca=
n
>>> always adapt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:23 AM Raghavendra Kamath <
>>> raghu@raghukamath.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 15 December, 2020 6:11:42 PM IST Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > That would be 20:00 CET -- that can work for me, though might be a
>>>> bit late
>>>> > for Raghukamath...
>>>>
>>>> Yes that would be midnight for me, but I think if everyone is
>>>> comfortable with
>>>> the time I have no problem :)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raghukamath
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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<div dir="auto">Ok, sounds good to me.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:43 AM Tymon Dąbrowski <<a \
href="mailto:tamtamy.tymona@gmail.com">tamtamy.tymona@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Let's do it in \
January? Like you said: January 7th, 20 CET?<br></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">niedz., 27 gru 2020 o 08:22 \
Emmet O'Neill <<a href="mailto:emmetoneill.pdx@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">emmetoneill.pdx@gmail.com</a>> napisał(a):<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey all, are you still planning on \
having a testing day on the 27th?<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:55 PM Emmet O'Neill <<a \
href="mailto:emmetoneill.pdx@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">emmetoneill.pdx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I think we should wait until \
the new year to start, since the next few weeks are quite busy and I expect most \
people will be taking at least some time off over the next 2-3 weeks.<br></div><div>I \
know it depends where you are in the world, but I don't think people should feel \
compelled to do this kind of thing in the middle of the holiday. Just bake some \
cookies instead, eh?<br></div><div>As important as testing is, it's<i> \
</i>equally important that people have some time to take <i>real</i> breaks. \
Including habitual support-givers and MR-testers. ;)</div><div><br></div><div>I'm \
not totally opposed to the 27th, but what do you all think about the <b>first \
thursday of the month</b>, starting on <b>January 7th</b> <b>@ \
20:00CET</b>?</div><div>It might be a good way to start out the new year and start \
thinking about our plans and goals for Krita 5 in \
2021.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><span>> This \
is great thing to do. Some how i missed it in the meeting. Will it be<br> > open \
for only developers? Will it be for whole \
day?</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You may have missed it because we \
were having some issues with Matrix IRC \
bridging...<br></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Anyway, it's Krita, \
so of course it'll be open to anybody to participate if they can and want to. The \
more the merrier. :)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Right now we \
have a number of full-time developers, so the idea is to take a small chunk of that \
time to actually use and test the program for \
ourselves.</span></div><div><span>Because when we are singularly focused on squashing \
the next bug in the list, or making the next change to our MR, \
<br></span></div><div><span>It's very easy to spend all of your time and mental \
energy on the code in the IDE, and not on the program \
itself.<br></span></div><div><span>Ultimately, it does cost us a few developer hours, \
but I think it'll have a return of better vision, more ideas, and a better feel \
for what we're working towards.</span></div><div><span>(If it's not worth the \
time, we drop it and try something else after a few months. But I think it \
will.)<br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>While working it would \
be nice to take notes, whether it's "fix this annoying widget behavior \
here" or "wouldn't it be nice if this tool could do \
that"...<br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><span>After some talk, it seemed<br> like we \
should try to (voluntarily) organize on BBB, everyone turns on<br> screen sharing and \
you know, we'll just draw and chat a \
bit.</span></div></blockquote><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'm all for \
this, and starting at 20:00CET would work fine for Eoin and I, since that's \
around the time we usually.</span></div><div><span>I do think that the diversity of \
timezones (coupled with everybody working on their own schedule) will make virtually \
organizing pretty hard to pull off.</span></div><div><span>There's no harm in \
trying it out though, even if people just pop in and out whenever they can. I have a \
feeling it'll get lonely for Eoin and I later in the day. \
lol<br></span></div><div><br></div><div>We won't be stuck with anything, so if \
things don't work out well we can always adapt. \
<br></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:23 AM \
Raghavendra Kamath <<a href="mailto:raghu@raghukamath.com" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">raghu@raghukamath.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tuesday, 15 December, 2020 6:11:42 PM IST \
Boudewijn Rempt wrote:<br> <br>
> That would be 20:00 CET -- that can work for me, though might be a bit late<br>
> for Raghukamath...<br>
<br>
Yes that would be midnight for me, but I think if everyone is comfortable with <br>
the time I have no problem :)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Raghukamath<br>
<br>
<br>
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