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Subject: Re: HDR, color management, krita, luts and other apps
From: Simon Legrand <legrand.simon () gmail ! com>
Date: 2012-06-07 14:06:16
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On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b@gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 07.06.12, 14:29 +0100 schrieb Simon Legrand:
>
> I have forwarded Boudewijn's initial email to all the relevant people in
> > DD
> > London (Comp, Texture, Matte painters, ect...) I've asked them to read
> > through it and let me know if they spotted anything or wanted to expand on
> > any point.
> >
> > I'll report back if any of them come up with useful information.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Am 07.06.12, 09:50 +0200 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
> > > On Wednesday 06 June 2012 Jun, Sven Langkamp wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess someone would get shot for the first sentence in Simon's place
> > > > > ;)
> > > > > Would be a bit strange if an application that costs a few thousand euro
> > > > > couldn't do that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Haha. No, actually it's true that Nuke keeps its own colour pipe very
> > simple, because Nuke itself is usually used to basically 'create'
> > colourspaces and LUTs that work for different mediums. If we had an
> > automatic monitor colour correction on top of that it may make things very
> > complex for us. It's kept simple on purpose. :) And we all use calibrated
> > Dreamcolor screens anyway.
> >
>
> Interessting. Do you drive the DreamColor's on 10-bit per channel mode or
> old school 8-bit? If it is connected with 10-bit, what window manager do
> you use?
Nvidia drivers are set to 10bit. We use KDE 3.5something. We may be moving
to centos6 / kde4 in the near future.
>
>
> Yes and we do use those.
> > http://h10010.www1.hp.com/**wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-**
> > 382087-64283-72270-3884471-**3648397.html?dnr=1<http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-382087-64283-72270-3884471-3648397.html?dnr=1>
> > We never use non calibrated screens to review anything, which is why there
> > was never a real need for Nuke to automatically adapt itself. However
> > Krita
> > has a broader user base and it most definitely would have to keep doing
> > what it's doing now and not go the Nuke way. But I think everyone seems to
> > agree on this.
> >
>
> kind regards
> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
> --
> developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ku.b@gmx.de" \
target="_blank">ku.b@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Am 07.06.12, \
14:29 +0100 schrieb Simon Legrand:<div class="im"><br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> I have forwarded Boudewijn's initial email to all the \
relevant people in DD<br> London (Comp, Texture, Matte painters, ect...) I've \
asked them to read<br> through it and let me know if they spotted anything or wanted \
to expand on<br> any point.<br>
<br>
I'll report back if any of them come up with useful information.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <<a href="mailto:ku.b@gmx.de" \
target="_blank">ku.b@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Am 07.06.12, \
09:50 +0200 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:<br> On Wednesday 06 June 2012 Jun, Sven \
Langkamp wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> I guess someone would get shot for the first sentence in \
Simon's place ;)<br> Would be a bit strange if an application that costs a few \
thousand euro<br> couldn't do that.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
Haha. No, actually it's true that Nuke keeps its own colour pipe very<br>
simple, because Nuke itself is usually used to basically 'create'<br>
colourspaces and LUTs that work for different mediums. If we had an<br>
automatic monitor colour correction on top of that it may make things very<br>
complex for us. It's kept simple on purpose. :) And we all use calibrated<br>
Dreamcolor screens anyway.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Interessting. Do you drive the DreamColor's on 10-bit per channel mode or old \
school 8-bit? If it is connected with 10-bit, what window manager do you \
use?</blockquote><div>Nvidia drivers are set to 10bit. We use KDE 3.5something. We \
may be moving to centos6 / kde4 in the near future.<br> </div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="im HOEnZb"><br> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Yes and we do use those.<br>
<a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-382087-64283-72270-3884471-3648397.html?dnr=1" \
target="_blank">http://h10010.www1.hp.com/<u></u>wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-<u></u>382087-64283-72270-3884471-<u></u>3648397.html?dnr=1</a><br>
We never use non calibrated screens to review anything, which is why there<br>
was never a real need for Nuke to automatically adapt itself. However Krita<br>
has a broader user base and it most definitely would have to keep doing<br>
what it's doing now and not go the Nuke way. But I think everyone seems to<br>
agree on this.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
kind regards<br>
Kai-Uwe Behrmann<br>
-- <br>
developing for colour management <a href="http://www.behrmann.name" \
target="_blank">www.behrmann.name</a> + <a href="http://www.oyranos.org" \
target="_blank">www.oyranos.org</a><br> \
______________________________<u></u>_________________<br> kimageshop mailing \
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target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/<u></u>listinfo/kimageshop</a><br> \
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Simon Legrand<br><a \
href="http://slegrand.blogspot.com/">http://slegrand.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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