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Subject: Re: Pop up palette recent colour
From: Vera Lukman <shicmap () gmail ! com>
Date: 2010-01-30 5:37:39
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Hmm.. should I put this discussion to the forum?
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Adam <nospam@xibo.at> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:44:47 +0100, Vera Lukman <shicmap@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very small
> >> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. Having
> >> it
> >> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the
> >> settings,
> >> which could be a feature in the future.
> >
> > Yeah, this is what I thought too.. So probably pop up is the best at the
> > moment.
> >
> >> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, when
> >> clicking on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup
> >> (whatever is more convenient).
> >
> > so when does the popup pop? Is it when I hover on a colour? Or using the
> > 'color' button?
> Test it and pick the most convenient version :). I assume, that it isn't
> much work to try different signals.
> >
> >> a transparent background would even remove the grey area.
> > Transparent background is not possible, there is a Qt bug and I hit this
> > bug
> > 2 months ago.
> >
> > i created a little mockup, see attachment..
> >
> >
> >> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between color selection
> > methods in
> >> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you get move by
> >> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it shows complementary
> > colors.
> >
> > We can do this by pressing a key. I am not sure what you mean by move by
> > hue/saturation though. I am not sure how to show complementary colours
> > either... (What algorithm to do this?)
> >
> >> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like that.
> >
> > We don't have to be original :P
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Adam <nospam@xibo.at> wrote:
> >
> >> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very small
> >> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. Having
> >> it
> >> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the
> >> settings,
> >> which could be a feature in the future.
> >>
> >> Hm, i just realised, that a popup was Vera's first idea. Well, it sounds
> >> better to me..
> >>
> >> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:14:52 +0100, Ed . <schumifer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Personally I think having the triangle selector at the centre is the
> >> > most convenient. I like boud's idea of having the option of switching
> >> > the sorting method (maybe using the scroll wheel). Even better, when
> >> the
> >> > sorting method changes, the colors fly to their position using Qt 4.6
> >> > animation capabilities :)
> >> >
> >> >> To: kimageshop@kde.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: Pop up palette recent colour
> >> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:47:59 +0100
> >> >> From: nospam@xibo.at
> >> >>
> >> >> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, when
> >> >> clicking
> >> >> on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup (whatever is more
> >> >> convenient). a transparent background would even remove the grey
> >> area.
> >> >>
> >> >> i created a little mockup, see attachment..
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:45:36 +0100, Vera Lukman <shicmap@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > hmm.. that would be great actually.. but I wonder how we can modify
> >> >> the
> >> >> > existing widget.. thoughts are welcome
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Boudewijn Rempt
> >> <boud@valdyas.org>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Thursday 28 January 2010, Vera Lukman wrote:
> >> >> >> > Great. I can use that.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > KisPopupPalette is a class inherited from QWidget, everything
> >> >> there is
> >> >> >> > painted using QPainter. I wonder if it is possible to add
> >> >> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in KisPopupPalette. I have thought about
> >> >> >> putting
> >> >> >> > the 2 widgets in a QLayout object, but I don't think it is
> >> >> possible to
> >> >> >> put
> >> >> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in the center of KisPopupPalette
> >> because I
> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> > think we can put 2 widgets on top of each other in a QLayout.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Another thing to consider is, if I want to enable easy access to
> >> >> >> something
> >> >> >> > else using the pop up palette (eg. easy access to current brush
> >> >> >> settings),
> >> >> >> > it will be hard to do if I have the colour selector on the pop
> >> up
> >> >> >> palette.
> >> >> >> > Any thoughts?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between color
> >> selection
> >> >> >> methods
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you get
> >> move by
> >> >> >> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it shows
> >> complementary
> >> >> >> colors.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like that.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
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Hmm.. should I put this discussion to the forum?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On \
Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Adam <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:nospam@xibo.at">nospam@xibo.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im">On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:44:47 +0100, Vera \
Lukman <<a href="mailto:shicmap@gmail.com">shicmap@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> \
<br> >> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very \
small<br> >> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. \
Having<br> >> it<br>
>> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the<br>
>> settings,<br>
>> which could be a feature in the future.<br>
><br>
> Yeah, this is what I thought too.. So probably pop up is the best at the<br>
> moment.<br>
><br>
>> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, when<br>
>> clicking on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup<br>
>> (whatever is more convenient).<br>
><br>
> so when does the popup pop? Is it when I hover on a colour? Or using the<br>
> 'color' button?<br>
</div>Test it and pick the most convenient version :). I assume, that it \
isn't<br> much work to try different signals.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">><br>
>> a transparent background would even remove the grey area.<br>
> Transparent background is not possible, there is a Qt bug and I hit this<br>
> bug<br>
> 2 months ago.<br>
><br>
> i created a little mockup, see attachment..<br>
><br>
><br>
>> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between color selection<br>
> methods in<br>
>> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you get move by<br>
>> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it shows complementary<br>
> colors.<br>
><br>
> We can do this by pressing a key. I am not sure what you mean by move by<br>
> hue/saturation though. I am not sure how to show complementary colours<br>
> either... (What algorithm to do this?)<br>
><br>
>> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like that.<br>
><br>
> We don't have to be original :P<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Adam <<a \
href="mailto:nospam@xibo.at">nospam@xibo.at</a>> wrote:<br> ><br>
>> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very small<br>
>> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. Having<br>
>> it<br>
>> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the<br>
>> settings,<br>
>> which could be a feature in the future.<br>
>><br>
>> Hm, i just realised, that a popup was Vera's first idea. Well, it \
sounds<br> >> better to me..<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:14:52 +0100, Ed . <<a \
href="mailto:schumifer@hotmail.com">schumifer@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> \
>><br> >> ><br>
>> > Personally I think having the triangle selector at the centre is \
the<br> >> > most convenient. I like boud's idea of having the option of \
switching<br> >> > the sorting method (maybe using the scroll wheel). Even \
better, when<br> >> the<br>
>> > sorting method changes, the colors fly to their position using Qt \
4.6<br> >> > animation capabilities :)<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> To: <a href="mailto:kimageshop@kde.org">kimageshop@kde.org</a><br>
>> >> Subject: Re: Pop up palette recent colour<br>
>> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:47:59 +0100<br>
>> >> From: <a href="mailto:nospam@xibo.at">nospam@xibo.at</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, \
when<br> >> >> clicking<br>
>> >> on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup (whatever is \
more<br> >> >> convenient). a transparent background would even remove \
the grey<br> >> area.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> i created a little mockup, see attachment..<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:45:36 +0100, Vera Lukman <<a \
href="mailto:shicmap@gmail.com">shicmap@gmail.com</a>><br> >> >> \
wrote:<br> >> >><br>
>> >> > hmm.. that would be great actually.. but I wonder how we can \
modify<br> >> >> the<br>
>> >> > existing widget.. thoughts are welcome<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Boudewijn Rempt<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>><br>
>> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >> On Thursday 28 January 2010, Vera Lukman wrote:<br>
>> >> >> > Great. I can use that.<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > KisPopupPalette is a class inherited from QWidget, \
everything<br> >> >> there is<br>
>> >> >> > painted using QPainter. I wonder if it is possible to \
add<br> >> >> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in KisPopupPalette. I \
have thought about<br> >> >> >> putting<br>
>> >> >> > the 2 widgets in a QLayout object, but I don't \
think it is<br> >> >> possible to<br>
>> >> >> put<br>
>> >> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in the center of \
KisPopupPalette<br> >> because I<br>
>> >> >> don't<br>
>> >> >> > think we can put 2 widgets on top of each other in a \
QLayout.<br> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > Another thing to consider is, if I want to enable \
easy access to<br> >> >> >> something<br>
>> >> >> > else using the pop up palette (eg. easy access to \
current brush<br> >> >> >> settings),<br>
>> >> >> > it will be hard to do if I have the colour selector \
on the pop<br> >> up<br>
>> >> >> palette.<br>
>> >> >> > Any thoughts?<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between \
color<br> >> selection<br>
>> >> >> methods<br>
>> >> >> in<br>
>> >> >> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you \
get<br> >> move by<br>
>> >> >> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it \
shows<br> >> complementary<br>
>> >> >> colors.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something \
like that.<br> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> --<br>
>> >> >> Boudewijn Rempt | <a href="http://www.valdyas.org" \
target="_blank">http://www.valdyas.org</a><br> >> >> >> \
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>> >><br> >> >><br>
>> >><br>
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