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Subject: Re: Pop up palette recent colour
From: Vera Lukman <shicmap () gmail ! com>
Date: 2010-01-29 17:44:47
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> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very small
> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. Having it
> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the settings,
> which could be a feature in the future.
Yeah, this is what I thought too.. So probably pop up is the best at the
moment.
> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, when
> clicking on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup
> (whatever is more convenient).
so when does the popup pop? Is it when I hover on a colour? Or using the
'color' button?
> a transparent background would even remove the grey area.
Transparent background is not possible, there is a Qt bug and I hit this bug
2 months ago.
i created a little mockup, see attachment..
> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between color selection
methods in
> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you get move by
> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it shows complementary
colors.
We can do this by pressing a key. I am not sure what you mean by move by
hue/saturation though. I am not sure how to show complementary colours
either... (What algorithm to do this?)
> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like that.
We don't have to be original :P
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Adam <nospam@xibo.at> wrote:
> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very small
> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. Having it
> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the settings,
> which could be a feature in the future.
>
> Hm, i just realised, that a popup was Vera's first idea. Well, it sounds
> better to me..
>
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:14:52 +0100, Ed . <schumifer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Personally I think having the triangle selector at the centre is the
> > most convenient. I like boud's idea of having the option of switching
> > the sorting method (maybe using the scroll wheel). Even better, when the
> > sorting method changes, the colors fly to their position using Qt 4.6
> > animation capabilities :)
> >
> >> To: kimageshop@kde.org
> >> Subject: Re: Pop up palette recent colour
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:47:59 +0100
> >> From: nospam@xibo.at
> >>
> >> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, when
> >> clicking
> >> on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup (whatever is more
> >> convenient). a transparent background would even remove the grey area.
> >>
> >> i created a little mockup, see attachment..
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:45:36 +0100, Vera Lukman <shicmap@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > hmm.. that would be great actually.. but I wonder how we can modify
> >> the
> >> > existing widget.. thoughts are welcome
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thursday 28 January 2010, Vera Lukman wrote:
> >> >> > Great. I can use that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > KisPopupPalette is a class inherited from QWidget, everything
> >> there is
> >> >> > painted using QPainter. I wonder if it is possible to add
> >> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in KisPopupPalette. I have thought about
> >> >> putting
> >> >> > the 2 widgets in a QLayout object, but I don't think it is
> >> possible to
> >> >> put
> >> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in the center of KisPopupPalette because I
> >> >> don't
> >> >> > think we can put 2 widgets on top of each other in a QLayout.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Another thing to consider is, if I want to enable easy access to
> >> >> something
> >> >> > else using the pop up palette (eg. easy access to current brush
> >> >> settings),
> >> >> > it will be hard to do if I have the colour selector on the pop up
> >> >> palette.
> >> >> > Any thoughts?
> >> >>
> >> >> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between color selection
> >> >> methods
> >> >> in
> >> >> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you get move by
> >> >> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it shows complementary
> >> >> colors.
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like that.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" \
style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial; font-size: small; ">> Having \
the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether a very small<br> > triangle \
or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. Having it<br>> as a popup \
would make it possible to change the selector in the settings,<br>> which could be \
a feature in the future.</span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" \
style="border-collapse: separate; font-size: small;"><br></span></div><div><span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-size: small;">Yeah, \
this is what I thought too.. So probably pop up is the best at the \
moment.</span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
separate; font-size: small;"><br></span></div>> why not as popups without a \
titlebar. these would disappear, when </span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" \
style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; \
">> clicking on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup</span><div> <span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; \
border-collapse: collapse; ">> (whatever is more convenient). \
</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br> \
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">so when \
does the popup pop? Is it when I hover on a colour? Or using the 'color' \
button?</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" \
style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; \
">> a transparent background would even remove the grey area.</span></div> \
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Transparent background is \
not possible, there is a Qt bug and I hit this bug 2 months ago.</span></font></div> \
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: \
13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><br>i created a little mockup, see \
attachment..</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br> \
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" \
style="font-size: 13px; "></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">> I would love it if there was \
a way to cycle between color selection methods in<br> > the popup, like, it starts \
with recent colors, click, you get move by<br>> hue/saturation etc. from current \
color, click, it shows complementary \
colors.<br><br></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" \
face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
collapse;">We can do this by pressing a key. I am not sure what you mean by move by \
hue/saturation though. I am not sure how to show complementary colours either... \
(What algorithm to do this?)</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" \
face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><br>> Of \
course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like \
that.</span></span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, \
sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">We \
don't have to be original :P</span></font></div> <div><font \
class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" \
style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: \
13px; "></span><br></span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 \
at 6:01 AM, Adam <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:nospam@xibo.at">nospam@xibo.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Having the triangle selector in the middle would mean ether \
a very small<br> triangle or very long way from the cursor to the tools/colours. \
Having it<br> as a popup would make it possible to change the selector in the \
settings,<br> which could be a feature in the future.<br>
<br>
Hm, i just realised, that a popup was Vera's first idea. Well, it sounds<br>
better to me..<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:14:52 +0100, Ed . <<a \
href="mailto:schumifer@hotmail.com">schumifer@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br>
><br>
> Personally I think having the triangle selector at the centre is the<br>
> most convenient. I like boud's idea of having the option of switching<br>
> the sorting method (maybe using the scroll wheel). Even better, when the<br>
> sorting method changes, the colors fly to their position using Qt 4.6<br>
> animation capabilities :)<br>
><br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:kimageshop@kde.org">kimageshop@kde.org</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: Pop up palette recent colour<br>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:47:59 +0100<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:nospam@xibo.at">nospam@xibo.at</a><br>
>><br>
>> why not as popups without a titlebar. these would disappear, when<br>
>> clicking<br>
>> on the canvas or moving the mouse out of the popup (whatever is more<br>
>> convenient). a transparent background would even remove the grey area.<br>
>><br>
>> i created a little mockup, see attachment..<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:45:36 +0100, Vera Lukman <<a \
href="mailto:shicmap@gmail.com">shicmap@gmail.com</a>><br> >> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > hmm.. that would be great actually.. but I wonder how we can modify<br>
>> the<br>
>> > existing widget.. thoughts are welcome<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <<a \
href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>><br> >> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> On Thursday 28 January 2010, Vera Lukman wrote:<br>
>> >> > Great. I can use that.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > KisPopupPalette is a class inherited from QWidget, \
everything<br> >> there is<br>
>> >> > painted using QPainter. I wonder if it is possible to add<br>
>> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in KisPopupPalette. I have thought \
about<br> >> >> putting<br>
>> >> > the 2 widgets in a QLayout object, but I don't think it \
is<br> >> possible to<br>
>> >> put<br>
>> >> > KoTriangleColorSelector in the center of KisPopupPalette \
because I<br> >> >> don't<br>
>> >> > think we can put 2 widgets on top of each other in a \
QLayout.<br> >> >> ><br>
>> >> > Another thing to consider is, if I want to enable easy access \
to<br> >> >> something<br>
>> >> > else using the pop up palette (eg. easy access to current \
brush<br> >> >> settings),<br>
>> >> > it will be hard to do if I have the colour selector on the pop \
up<br> >> >> palette.<br>
>> >> > Any thoughts?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I would love it if there was a way to cycle between color \
selection<br> >> >> methods<br>
>> >> in<br>
>> >> the popup, like, it starts with recent colors, click, you get move \
by<br> >> >> hue/saturation etc. from current color, click, it shows \
complementary<br> >> >> colors.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Of course, it's not original... Mypaint has something like \
that.<br> >> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Boudewijn Rempt | <a href="http://www.valdyas.org" \
target="_blank">http://www.valdyas.org</a><br> >> >> \
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