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List:       kde-frameworks-devel
Subject:    Re: Kioslave repos
From:       Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-04-08 11:15:08
Message-ID: CACcA1RpabYCCuL2=JgMjAz8_L6qFQW7u79dvM6t4jcKz49JKMg () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Kevin Ottens <ervin@kde.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Tuesday 08 April 2014 12:30:44 Aleix Pol wrote:
> > The rationale is that we should never need to pull a Plasma Workspace t=
o
> > get an _application_ running.
>
> I'd argue the application is broken if that happens. :-)
>
> A regular application should only need KDE Frameworks and eventually othe=
r
> libraries (kdepimlibs, Qt, etc.) to run. If it needs direct implementatio=
n
> details about the workspace the application is badly designed.
>
> Of course that raises the question of what is part of the workspace... th=
at
> doesn't give any indication on splitting though. No application was
> supposed
> to depend on kde-workspace before anyway, so I'd understand kicking out
> what's
> not needed in there anymore, I don't understand exploding it completely.
>
> Regards.
> --
> K=C3=A9vin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net
>
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When I said applications shouldn't depend on Plasma Workspace I was
referring to kde-runtime, where most kdelibs was relying on and so now do
some frameworks.

KHelpCenter was split into a different repository because applications will
want to depend on it, same thing applies with most kioslaves and
components. The rest has gone to plasma-*.

Aleix

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<div dir="ltr"><div>On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Kevin Ottens <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ervin@kde.org" \
target="_blank">ervin@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br> <div class=""><br>
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 12:30:44 Aleix Pol wrote:<br>
&gt; The rationale is that we should never need to pull a Plasma Workspace to<br>
&gt; get an _application_ running.<br>
<br>
</div>I&#39;d argue the application is broken if that happens. :-)<br>
<br>
A regular application should only need KDE Frameworks and eventually other<br>
libraries (kdepimlibs, Qt, etc.) to run. If it needs direct implementation<br>
details about the workspace the application is badly designed.<br>
<br>
Of course that raises the question of what is part of the workspace... that<br>
doesn&#39;t give any indication on splitting though. No application was supposed<br>
to depend on kde-workspace before anyway, so I&#39;d understand kicking out \
what&#39;s<br> not needed in there anymore, I don&#39;t understand exploding it \
completely.<br> <br>
Regards.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">--<br>
Kévin Ottens, <a href="http://ervin.ipsquad.net" \
target="_blank">http://ervin.ipsquad.net</a><br> <br>
KDAB - proud supporter of KDE, <a href="http://www.kdab.com" \
target="_blank">http://www.kdab.com</a><br> <br>
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<br></blockquote></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra">When I said applications shouldn&#39;t depend on Plasma Workspace \
I was referring to kde-runtime, where most kdelibs was relying on and so now do some \
frameworks.</div>

<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">KHelpCenter was split \
into a different repository because applications will want to depend on it, same \
thing applies with most kioslaves and components. The rest has gone to \
plasma-*.</div>

<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Aleix</div></div>



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