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List:       kde-frameworks-devel
Subject:    Re: Move KDED out of frameworks?
From:       Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-03-28 11:34:30
Message-ID: CACcA1RrjzddaSYM_WHxAFM-CvSq3k_kKuyHSOO9=zsCpiVAdMA () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Alex Merry <alex.merry@kde.org> wrote:

> On 27/03/14 22:25, Àlex Fiestas wrote:
> > Hi there
> >
> > First of all sorry for sending this email so late in the release
> process, but
> > today has been the first day in months that I have been able to work
> fully
> > concentrated on Frameworks.
> >
> > KDED is a weird framework, while it is a solution it is still really
> tied to
> > what was once known as KDE, just to mention a few things:
> >
> > -It always registers org.kde.kded5 in the bus, allowing only 1 instance
> > -It plays a role in startkde startup sequence
> > -It checks for KDE session for loading or not some modules
> > -Manages sycoca freshness
> > -Integrates with ksplash
> > -...
> >
> > So for the moment I'd like to move KDED into kde-workspace (not into the
> repo
> > but in the git structure) until we clean and remove all ties to KDE and
> make
> > it more of a solution for any desktop.
> >
> > Since it does  not install any header (kdbusaddons does it instead) we
> won't
> > break anything with it.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> In principle, I agree.  In practice, a lot of our frameworks have a
> runtime dependency of some sort on it.[0]
>
> Alex
>
>
> [0]: http://lxr.kde.org/search?v=kf5-qt5&_filestring=&_string=kded5
>
>
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On the other hand, note that kdedmodule.h is in KDBusAddons.

Aleix

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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 \
at 12:30 PM, Alex Merry <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alex.merry@kde.org" \
target="_blank">alex.merry@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 27/03/14 22:25, Àlex \
Fiestas wrote:<br> &gt; Hi there<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; First of all sorry for sending this email so late in the release process, \
but<br> &gt; today has been the first day in months that I have been able to work \
fully<br> &gt; concentrated on Frameworks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; KDED is a weird framework, while it is a solution it is still really tied to<br>
&gt; what was once known as KDE, just to mention a few things:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -It always registers org.kde.kded5 in the bus, allowing only 1 instance<br>
&gt; -It plays a role in startkde startup sequence<br>
&gt; -It checks for KDE session for loading or not some modules<br>
&gt; -Manages sycoca freshness<br>
&gt; -Integrates with ksplash<br>
&gt; -...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So for the moment I&#39;d like to move KDED into kde-workspace (not into the \
repo<br> &gt; but in the git structure) until we clean and remove all ties to KDE and \
make<br> &gt; it more of a solution for any desktop.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Since it does   not install any header (kdbusaddons does it instead) we \
won&#39;t<br> &gt; break anything with it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; What do you think?<br>
<br>
</div></div>In principle, I agree.   In practice, a lot of our frameworks have a<br>
runtime dependency of some sort on it.[0]<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
<br>
[0]: <a href="http://lxr.kde.org/search?v=kf5-qt5&amp;_filestring=&amp;_string=kded5" \
target="_blank">http://lxr.kde.org/search?v=kf5-qt5&amp;_filestring=&amp;_string=kded5</a><br>
 <br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">On the other hand, note that \
kdedmodule.h is in KDBusAddons.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra">Aleix</div></div>



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