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Subject: Re: How is a language choosen?
From: Bèrto ëd Sèra <berto.d.sera () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-12-16 14:41:27
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Hi!
> Overall, your question probably needs to be more specific to yield useful
> answers.
>
Fair enough. So...
system wide:
gentoo ~ # locale
LANG=en_GB.utf8
LC_CTYPE="en_GB.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.utf8"
LC_TIME="en_GB.utf8"
LC_COLLATE="en_GB.utf8"
LC_MONETARY="en_GB.utf8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.utf8"
LC_PAPER="en_GB.utf8"
LC_NAME="en_GB.utf8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB.utf8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB.utf8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB.utf8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.utf8"
LC_ALL=
Now for KDE:
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Country: Ukraine
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Languages:
1) British English
2) Russian
3) Ukrainian
4) Italian
However, first weird thing, the date example comes out in Russian cyrillic,
I would expect it to be in in British English, would I not?
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Number
First selector's description is in Ukrainian (not Russian)
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Money
The third selector's description is in Ukrainian (it's actually the same of
the "number" tab), everything else is in English
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Calendar:
The third selector's description is in Ukrainian, all other descriptions
are in English.
Proposed values for "Calendar system" are in English, all days' names are
in Russian, though
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Date and Time: everything
in English
- System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Other: everything in
English
Now for a quick use case with software:
Open Dolphin: everything in English, however, if you select a directory,
the side bar has "size of directories" value in Ukrainian, "modified" value
is... in Russian.
Open umbrello: everything is in English, but if I open the handbook I get
it... in Ukrainian (Підручник з Umbrello UML Modeller).
Open Digikam: the slash screen comes up in English, however, the strings
that run superimposed on it are, again, mostly in Ukrainian.
Open Kate: again, everything in English, the handbook is in Ukrainian
(Підручник з Kate).
This is happening here and there quite constantly, and it was giving me the
impression that a large number of decisions on what language should be used
are based on Country, rather than on "preferred languages". I still cannot
figure out where the Russian strings would come from, though.
Hope this makes things a bit clearer.
Bèrto
--
==============================
If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in a
darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music.
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<div class="gmail_quote">Hi!<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Overall, your \
question probably needs to be more specific to yield useful<br> \
answers.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fair enough. \
So...</div><div><br></div><div><div>system wide:</div><div><div>gentoo ~ # \
locale</div><div>LANG=en_GB.utf8</div><div>LC_CTYPE="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.utf8"</div>
<div>LC_TIME="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_COLLATE="en_GB.utf8"</div> \
<div>LC_MONETARY="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_PAPER="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>
LC_NAME="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_ADDRESS="en_GB.utf8"</div><div> \
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB.utf8"</div><div>LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.utf8"</div>
<div>LC_ALL=</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Now for KDE:</div><div>- System \
settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Country: Ukraine</div><div>- \
System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Languages:</div> <div>1) \
British English</div><div>2) Russian</div><div>3) Ukrainian</div><div>4) \
Italian</div><div><br></div><div>However, first weird thing, the date example comes \
out in Russian cyrillic, I would expect it to be in in British English, would I \
not?</div> <div><br></div><div>- System settings -> Country/Region & Language \
-> Number</div><div>First selector's description is in Ukrainian (not \
Russian)</div><div><br></div><div>- System settings -> Country/Region & \
Language -> Money</div> <div>The third selector's description is in Ukrainian \
(it's actually the same of the "number" tab), everything else is in \
English</div><div><br></div><div>- System settings -> Country/Region & \
Language -> Calendar:</div> <div>The third selector's description is in \
Ukrainian, all other descriptions are in English. </div><div>Proposed values for \
"Calendar system" are in English, all days' names are in Russian, \
though</div> <div><br></div>
<div><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px">- \
System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Date and Time: everything \
in English</p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px">
<br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px">- \
System settings -> Country/Region & Language -> Other: everything in \
English</p></div><div><br></div><div>Now for a quick use case with software:</div> \
<div>Open Dolphin: everything in English, however, if you select a directory, the \
side bar has "size of directories" value in Ukrainian, "modified" \
value is... in Russian.</div><div><br></div><div>Open umbrello: everything is in \
English, but if I open the handbook I get it... in Ukrainian (Підручник з \
Umbrello UML Modeller).</div> <div><br></div><div>Open Digikam: the slash screen \
comes up in English, however, the strings that run superimposed on it are, again, \
mostly in Ukrainian.</div><div><br></div><div>Open Kate: again, everything in \
English, the handbook is in Ukrainian (Підручник з Kate).</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is happening here and there quite constantly, and it was \
giving me the impression that a large number of decisions on what language should be \
used are based on Country, rather than on "preferred languages". I still \
cannot figure out where the Russian strings would come from, though.</div> \
<div><br></div><div>Hope this makes things a bit \
clearer.</div><div><br></div><div>Bèrto</div><div><br></div></div>-- \
<br>==============================<br><span \
style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px">If \
Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room \
munching pills and listening to repetitive music.</span><br>
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