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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems
From:       David Faure <faure () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-01-24 9:07:34
Message-ID: 1647795.G8QTpqcLNr () asterix
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On Monday 20 January 2014 23:51:45 Martin Sandsmark wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 02:40:17PM -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > If we changed the default, it would mean ~/.xsession-errors would probably
> > become rather empty. Is that ok for KDE?
> 
> Considering how poor discoverability ~/.xsession-errors has (it took me many
> years until I discovered it) I think this is a really good idea.

What about the discoverability of the journald commands? "Discoverability" is 
really no argument for or against IMHO, since it's equally bad for both. 
I wouldn't have known how to get the logs from journald without reading the 
rest of this thread.

I don't want to prevent progress, but what I'm missing in this thread is a 
reason WHY to use journald. Filtering? grep can do that too, on ~/.xsession-
errors.

So yeah to me it just sounds like a way to fill up the '/' partition - 
possibly at the expense of other users; on a system with quotas for each 
user's home it would kind of break the idea of the quota, no?

Kevin Krammer: kDebug uses qDebug.

-- 
David Faure, faure@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr
Working on KDE, in particular KDE Frameworks 5

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