From kde-core-devel Sat Oct 30 11:04:37 2010 From: Juan Carlos Torres Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:04:37 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: why kdelibs? Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=128844579628621 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--0016367fb7ad7db8a30493d38a8e" --0016367fb7ad7db8a30493d38a8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2010 John Layt wrote: > > > > Big questions. Anyone with big answers? :-) > > Here is a big answer: > > Let's merge Qt and the KDE development platform. Let's put all KDE > libraries, > support libraries, platform modules into Qt, remove the redundancies in Qt, > and polish it into one nice consistent set of APIs, providing both, the > wonderful KDE integration, consistency and convenience, as well as the > simplicity and portability of the Qt platform. > > I know what you think ("madness", "no", "KDE 5", "impossible", > "governance", > "binary compatibility", "Nokia", "impossible", ...), but if you put that > aside > for a while and think big, wouldn't that be a wonderful answer to all the > struggles we have with kdelibs? > > We all love Qt, without it KDE wouldn't exist. We also love the KDE > development platform, it provides all that what Qt doesn't have or didn't > have > at some point in time. But is there still a real reason to keep them > separate? > Wouldn't it be much more elegant, if you wouldn't have to decide, if to use > some KDE classes or write a "qt-only" application, if you would get all the > wonders of KDE from Qt in one consistent way? > Sorry for butting in, but I just have to ask: Do you basically mean that the "KDE Development Platform" cease to be "KDE" and become part of Qt? Let's say this were possible, would KDE (or marketing-compliant, KDE SC) then become simply apps using Qt, probably with tighter platform integration on, for example, Linux? I mean, the thread started out as "why kdelibs?". With the answer you offered, the question in my mind now becomes "why KDE at all?" Or "what would KDE's selling/differentiating factor be? I hope I don't come off as trolling or offensive. I'm just genuinely curious about the effects of such a future with regards to KDE's independent identity. -- Regards, Juan Carlos Torres Jucato --0016367fb7ad7db8a30493d38a8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Cornelius Schum= acher <schumache= r@kde.org> wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2010 John Layt wrote:
>
> Big questions. =A0Anyone with big answers? :-)

Here is a big answer:

Let's merge Qt and the KDE development platform. Let's put all KDE = libraries,
support libraries, platform modules into Qt, remove the redundancies in Qt,=
and polish it into one nice consistent set of APIs, providing both, the
wonderful KDE integration, consistency and convenience, as well as the
simplicity and portability of the Qt platform.

I know what you think ("madness", "no", "KDE 5&quo= t;, "impossible", "governance",
"binary compatibility", "Nokia", "impossible"= , ...), but if you put that aside
for a while and think big, wouldn't that be a wonderful answer to all t= he
struggles we have with kdelibs?

We all love Qt, without it KDE wouldn't exist. We also love the KDE
development platform, it provides all that what Qt doesn't have or didn= 't have
at some point in time. But is there still a real reason to keep them separa= te?
Wouldn't it be much more elegant, if you wouldn't have to decide, i= f to use
some KDE classes or write a "qt-only" application, if you would g= et all the
wonders of KDE from Qt in one consistent way?

Sorr= y for butting in, but I just have to ask: Do you basically mean that the"KDE Development Platform" cease to be "KDE" and becom= e part of Qt?
Let's say this were possible, would KDE (or marketing-compliant, KDE SC= ) then
become simply apps using Qt, probably with tighter platform integ= ration on,
for example, Linux?

I mean, the thread started out as = "why kdelibs?". With the answer you offered,
the question in my mind now becomes "why KDE at all?" Or "wh= at would KDE's
selling/differentiating factor be?

I hope I do= n't come off as trolling or offensive. I'm just genuinely curious a= bout
the effects of such a future with regards to KDE's independent identity= .


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Regards,

Juan Carlos Torres
Jucat= o

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