From kde-core-devel Fri Jun 05 00:53:40 2009 From: Andrew Dorrell Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:53:40 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: F11 - fullscreen shortcut Message-Id: <200906051053.40290.andrew.dorrell () gmail ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=124423991821008 Insane number of posts on such an innane topic. There is a need, and has been for ages, to create a set of rules that application developers can use when selecting short-cut keys. Currently there is *no* guiding principle - only common practice - which moves and doesn't make much sense. Nor is there a guiding principle on what should be given a shortcut (there are lots of candidates in any one application). From a users perspective I love consistency. I'm not so fussed on the actual key - I will have to learn that anyway. But consistency means I only have to learn it once - not once for each application I use. This suggests shortcuts are most important for common functionality. Application specific functionality should take a back-seat *but* should have adequate options available - options that won't be snaffled on a whim. I think the KDE community should take a step back from this particular post and decide what it wants to do about this issue. There are only two real options: 1. Follow common practice (does it mean what windows does?) document it and and get over it. 2. Break with common practice and make the large number of changes that might be required to make everything "consistent" While I can see the advantage of, for example, reserving the meta modifier key for all window related shortcuts, etc. I can see that there will be a lot of change and a lot of complaints along the way. It might be just too big and not important enough to fight on. Remember that emacs has a vi mode ;-) And don't start this kind of discussion after going beta. My 2c.