> > * kmenuedit: NoDisplay in apps menu (in right click menu) > > so that's why I could never find it! :P Me too! But after that hint i was able to find the right click menu. Looked for it in the right click menu inside of kickoff and not on the ... let's call it k-button . Btw. Is there a reason kmenuedit is not part of systemsettings? My opinion is that it belongs in there. Mike -- Michael Jansen Available for contract work ( Development / Configuration Management ) http://www.michael-jansen.biz