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Subject: Re: Fundraising in KDE
From: Julien Tremblay McLellan <jtremc () gmail ! com>
Date: 2020-09-28 13:24:43
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Training events for fundraising for non-profits. The one below is the one I
found the most interesting.
Reluctant Fundraiser? Not A Fundraiser? Not A Problem!
When: Sept. 29th, 2020 – 1:00pm Eastern
Cindy Wagman will give guidance and encouragement to those who need to
fundraise, but would really rather do anything but.
I ran into these with my daily news reading:
https://nonprofithub.org/hubinars/
https://nonprofithub.org/hubinars/
Hope this can help somewhat
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:00 AM Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:36:46 CEST Vincent Pinon wrote:
>
>
> > Very regularly, we have video editors asking how to give money (amounts
> > 10€ to 100€) to boost development of that tool highly useful for them.
> > When we answer to give to KDE, who shares the infrastructure and funds
> > the sprints, they express they would prefer a more dedicated donation to
> > pay for development (bug solving, feature development...)
>
> At this point, I'd advise you to do what I did: create a foundation, get a
> bank account and take donations in. For applications like Blender, Krita,
> Kdenlive that's really the only way to go because your users and potential
> supporters won't understand an umbrella organizagtion like KDE.
>
> Especially once the majority of users is on Windows, the KDE story won't
> lead to donations. KDE needs to find its supporters in the free software
> and Linux world.
>
> > The tiny team can't answer these requests on spare time (or it takes
> > years). No one is ready to abandon their job, finding a good person to
> > hire seems not easy, maybe contracting a consultant would be a
> > solution... But then how to gather the funds? As KDE eV can't allocate
> > money to a specific project (if I understand correctly), we would need
> > to create a new structure: none of us is interested in this kind of
> > paperworks and risks associated (having read about Krita Fundations
> > difficulties few years back)...
> >
> > Also, we know that our Windows downloads are increasing by tens of
> > thousands every month, it was also suggested to ask for 1€ (or free
> > amount) for these binaries (as GCompris also did sometime), but again,
> > where to put that money ? It could be for eV (?)
> > I haven't been motivated to look at the stores stuff, as long as we
> > don't know where to put the money...
>
> Don't ask for too little. A 1€ application will be perceived as having
> less value and utility than a 10€ application. We went for 10€ on all
> platforms because we both wanted to undercut our 39,99€ competitors (Clip
> Studio and Affinity Photo) and because we wanted store customers to believe
> that Krita has a value.
>
> > So my questions are :
> > can eV gather money from Kdenlive binaries on Windows ? (and maybe Mac
> > someday, both thanks to Craft and binary-factory \o/)
> > Can it use it (or part of) to pay consultants on that project ? If not,
> > is anyone ready to help for the extra administrative work ?
> >
> > It's true that not accepting these donations maybe holds back that
> > project from increasing as rapidly as many users are expecting...
> >
> > Thanks for all the great things in KDE,
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> https://www.krita.org
>
>
>
--
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<div dir="ltr">Training events for fundraising for non-profits. The one below is the \
one I found the most interesting.<div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 \
40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>Reluctant Fundraiser? Not A Fundraiser? Not A \
Problem!</div><div>When: Sept. 29th, 2020 – 1:00pm Eastern<br></div><div>Cindy \
Wagman will give guidance and encouragement to those who need to fundraise, but would \
really rather do anything but.<br></div></blockquote><div><div><br></div><div>I ran \
into these with my daily news reading:</div><div><br></div><div><a \
href="https://nonprofithub.org/hubinars/">https://nonprofithub.org/hubinars/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a \
href="https://nonprofithub.org/hubinars/">https://nonprofithub.org/hubinars/</a><br><br>Hope \
this can help somewhat</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:00 AM Boudewijn Rempt <<a \
href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:36:46 CEST Vincent \
Pinon wrote:<br> <br>
<br>
> Very regularly, we have video editors asking how to give money (amounts <br>
> 10€ to 100€) to boost development of that tool highly useful for them.<br>
> When we answer to give to KDE, who shares the infrastructure and funds <br>
> the sprints, they express they would prefer a more dedicated donation to <br>
> pay for development (bug solving, feature development...)<br>
<br>
At this point, I'd advise you to do what I did: create a foundation, get a bank \
account and take donations in. For applications like Blender, Krita, Kdenlive \
that's really the only way to go because your users and potential supporters \
won't understand an umbrella organizagtion like KDE.<br> <br>
Especially once the majority of users is on Windows, the KDE story won't lead to \
donations. KDE needs to find its supporters in the free software and Linux world.<br> \
<br> > The tiny team can't answer these requests on spare time (or it takes \
<br> > years). No one is ready to abandon their job, finding a good person to <br>
> hire seems not easy, maybe contracting a consultant would be a <br>
> solution... But then how to gather the funds? As KDE eV can't allocate <br>
> money to a specific project (if I understand correctly), we would need <br>
> to create a new structure: none of us is interested in this kind of <br>
> paperworks and risks associated (having read about Krita Fundations <br>
> difficulties few years back)...<br>
> <br>
> Also, we know that our Windows downloads are increasing by tens of <br>
> thousands every month, it was also suggested to ask for 1€ (or free <br>
> amount) for these binaries (as GCompris also did sometime), but again, <br>
> where to put that money ? It could be for eV (?)<br>
> I haven't been motivated to look at the stores stuff, as long as we <br>
> don't know where to put the money...<br>
<br>
Don't ask for too little. A 1€ application will be perceived as having less \
value and utility than a 10€ application. We went for 10€ on all platforms \
because we both wanted to undercut our 39,99€ competitors (Clip Studio and Affinity \
Photo) and because we wanted store customers to believe that Krita has a value.<br> \
<br> > So my questions are :<br>
> can eV gather money from Kdenlive binaries on Windows ? (and maybe Mac <br>
> someday, both thanks to Craft and binary-factory \o/)<br>
> Can it use it (or part of) to pay consultants on that project ? If not, <br>
> is anyone ready to help for the extra administrative work ?<br>
> <br>
> It's true that not accepting these donations maybe holds back that <br>
> project from increasing as rapidly as many users are expecting...<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for all the great things in KDE,<br>
> <br>
> Vincent<br>
> <br>
> <br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
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target="_blank">https://www.krita.org</a><br> <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_signature"><div \
dir="ltr"><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><b><font face="georgia, \
serif">Julien Tremblay McLellan</font></b></div><div><span \
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