From kde-community Mon Sep 28 07:59:56 2020 From: Boudewijn Rempt Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:59:56 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: Fundraising in KDE Message-Id: <2618820.BEx9A2HvPv () boud-thinkpad-t470p> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=160128003219226 On Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:36:46 CEST Vincent Pinon wrote: > Very regularly, we have video editors asking how to give money (amounts=20 > 10=E2=82=AC to 100=E2=82=AC) to boost development of that tool highly use= ful for them. > When we answer to give to KDE, who shares the infrastructure and funds=20 > the sprints, they express they would prefer a more dedicated donation to= =20 > pay for development (bug solving, feature development...) At this point, I'd advise you to do what I did: create a foundation, get a = bank account and take donations in. For applications like Blender, Krita, K= denlive that's really the only way to go because your users and potential s= upporters won't understand an umbrella organizagtion like KDE. Especially once the majority of users is on Windows, the KDE story won't le= ad to donations. KDE needs to find its supporters in the free software and = Linux world. > The tiny team can't answer these requests on spare time (or it takes=20 > years). No one is ready to abandon their job, finding a good person to=20 > hire seems not easy, maybe contracting a consultant would be a=20 > solution... But then how to gather the funds? As KDE eV can't allocate=20 > money to a specific project (if I understand correctly), we would need=20 > to create a new structure: none of us is interested in this kind of=20 > paperworks and risks associated (having read about Krita Fundations=20 > difficulties few years back)... >=20 > Also, we know that our Windows downloads are increasing by tens of=20 > thousands every month, it was also suggested to ask for 1=E2=82=AC (or fr= ee=20 > amount) for these binaries (as GCompris also did sometime), but again,=20 > where to put that money ? It could be for eV (?) > I haven't been motivated to look at the stores stuff, as long as we=20 > don't know where to put the money... Don't ask for too little. A 1=E2=82=AC application will be perceived as hav= ing less value and utility than a 10=E2=82=AC application. We went for 10= =E2=82=AC on all platforms because we both wanted to undercut our 39,99=E2= =82=AC competitors (Clip Studio and Affinity Photo) and because we wanted s= tore customers to believe that Krita has a value. > So my questions are : > can eV gather money from Kdenlive binaries on Windows ? (and maybe Mac=20 > someday, both thanks to Craft and binary-factory \o/) > Can it use it (or part of) to pay consultants on that project ? If not,=20 > is anyone ready to help for the extra administrative work ? >=20 > It's true that not accepting these donations maybe holds back that=20 > project from increasing as rapidly as many users are expecting... >=20 > Thanks for all the great things in KDE, >=20 > Vincent >=20 >=20 =2D-=20 https://www.krita.org