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Subject: Re: Licensing policy change proposal
From: Mirko Boehm <mirko () kde ! org>
Date: 2019-01-27 20:14:10
Message-ID: 125BD17B-B8ED-4B45-A65F-B6BB8DD4C18C () kde ! org
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Hello,
> On 27. Jan 2019, at 19:39, Ivan Čukić <ivan.cukic@kde.org> wrote:
>
> Since all of these mostly boil down to CC0, I'll only comment on it.
>
> > > https://spdx.org/licenses/CC0-1.0.html <https://spdx.org/licenses/CC0-1.0.html>
> >
> > CC0 should be uncontroversial, it should be definitely allowed by our
> > license policy.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, none of the licenses we allow at the moment is a "public
> domain"-like license - in the sense that the author information is not
> preserved.
>
> I'm generally leaning against licenses like these - even if authors (of code,
> of art, etc.) allow us to forget them, I like giving credit where credit's
> due.
I need to point out that CC0 licenses are problematic in many jurisdictions, as there \
is no simple way to dedicate a work to the public domain. The correct way in for \
example France or Germany would be to use a permissive FOSS license. Let us avoid the \
mine field of public domain.
Best,
Mirko.
--
Mirko Boehm | mirko@kde.org | KDE e.V.
FSFE Team Germany
Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer
Request a meeting: https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm
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class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 27. Jan 2019, at 19:39, \
Ivan Čukić <<a href="mailto:ivan.cukic@kde.org" \
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class="">CC0 should be uncontroversial, it should be definitely allowed by our<br \
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">If I'm not mistaken, none of the \
licenses we allow at the moment is a "public<span \
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">domain"-like license - in the \
sense that the author information is not<span \
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!important;" class="">I'm generally leaning against licenses like these - even if \
authors (of code,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br \
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class=""></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I need to point \
out that CC0 licenses are problematic in many jurisdictions, as there is no simple \
way to dedicate a work to the public domain. The correct way in for example France or \
Germany would be to use a permissive FOSS license. Let us avoid the mine field of \
public domain.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div \
class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mirko.<br class=""><div class=""> <div \
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text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; \
line-break: after-white-space;" class="">-- <br class=""></div><div \
style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: \
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Mirko Boehm | <a \
href="mailto:mirko@kde.org" class="">mirko@kde.org</a> | KDE e.V.<br class="">FSFE \
Team Germany<br class="">Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer<br class="">Request a \
meeting: <a href="https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm" \
class="">https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm</a><br class=""></div></div></div> </div>
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