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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: [kde-community] Proposal: KDE Manifesto wording revision
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2013-11-11 9:59:10
Message-ID: 1642075.fTQZyQH0yC () freedom
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On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:44:46 Eike Hein wrote:
> On Monday 11 November 2013 10:14:56 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > the difference is that it does not specify "ONLY", which in this day and
> > age of decentralized revision control systems seems sensible. or are you
> > suggesting that we should not allow any contributions from the "outside"?
>
> You're confusing direct write access with contributing. We
> have several means to accept contributions from the "out-
> side" that don't require the former, e.g. ReviewBoard.

ha. i just wrote an email noting this as well. fun.

it is exactly this point about contribution vs write access that makes the 
entire "ONLY" clause useless.

> > not only is the new language clearer thanks to removing 2 lines and one
> > indented list, it makes the manifesto sound a lot less like it was put
> > together by pedants: ONLY and ALL ..  really?
> 
> The purpose of the Manifesto is to codify established practice
> and important, long-held ideas of the community in order to
> act as a cache that aids us in making future discussions. To

agreed. i have been making that exact argument for goodness how many years :)

> that end, we had a long discussion process that produced a con-
> sensus that was put in writing. The "burden of proof" is there-
> fore on change proposals, and changes in intended meaning
> should be argued a lot better than "the current wording does
> not soothe my eyes" and with spikes like "really?".

great; please respond to my other email.

-- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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