From kde-community Thu Aug 08 19:44:02 2013 From: Jos Poortvliet Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:44:02 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: [kde-community] Proposals for dealing with bad behavior Message-Id: <3132109.j2pXmx1DNH () linux-606j ! site> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=137599102405131 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============5212353142971037009==" --===============5212353142971037009== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3870000.fcgEGgpcxt"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --nextPart3870000.fcgEGgpcxt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thursday 08 August 2013 12:48:48 Thomas Zander wrote: > I have no idea how I ended up on the mailinglist, If you've read the e.V. list you'd know that there was a vote at Akademy to subscribe all e.V. list members to the community mailing list to facilitate moving our discussions there. > but since I am I'll just > comment in private. The document looks to strike the tone that IMO makes > sense. The wording in some paragraphs may need clarification, but nothing > major. (well, the last part mentioning we have 4 principles may qualify). Thanks! > I think if this was in place during my koffice times, I expect it would not > have gotten to a split like it did. Some not-aceptable behaviour generated > talks with people (not me ;) that were marked as "horrible" by cwg > members, as such giving them some 'teeth' would be great. Accountability > is required, as you know, but accountability without repurcussions is > useless. Yeap. And yes, I think it would've been helpful 'back in the day'. It's unfortunate it took us so long (and it still wouldn't have happened if I had not initiated it, very much based on my experiences in openSUSE). > I'm gonna figure out how to unsubscribe from the list now. Have a nice day! > :) Same to you. But do note that the e.V. list should become a lot more quiet now we can discuss much if not most in public. Votes will still be brought to that list but the discussion will happen in public. Cheers, J > Quoting Jos Poortvliet : > > On Friday 02 August 2013 14:44:52 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > >> Dear all, > >> > >> At Akademy, Valery, Peter and myself organized a BoF session about > >> conflict > >> handling. Valery wanted to discuss the situation around mailing list- and > >> IRC moderation; I had a proposal for those few cases (just a handful in > >> the > >> history of our community) when things really go out of hand. > >> > >> I've updated the wiki page with the notes. You can find there two > >> proposals: > >> > >> One to essentially set up a communication channel for the IRC, Forum and > >> Mailing List moderators; and urge them to come up with some kind of > >> process > >> and/or documentation for dealing with unpleasant behavior. > >> > >> The second, the 'stormy day' scenario, is a proposal from myself to allow > >> the CWG to deny people who are unwilling to adapt their behavior to our > >> community access to our infrastructure; initially for a two-week > >> cool-down > >> period but at some point for much longer periods. > >> > >> http://community.kde.org/Akademy/2013/ConflictResolution > >> > >> We would appreciate your feedback. The first step (the communication > >> channel for moderators) is already in the process of being executed; the > >> second proposal will need to be discussed and vote don by the e.V. > >> membership. However, I'd like to invite everybody, members and > >> non-members alike, to comment upon it. > >> > >> Oh and from the others who were present at the BoF, besides a thank you, > >> a > >> request: please check if it is complete and accurate! I might have missed > >> things. > >> > >> Greetings and hugs, > >> Jos Poortvliet > > > > I have seen very few comments on this. Does that mean everybody agrees, it > > is perfect and I can put this up for a vote, which will get 100% > > approval? It is a bit surprising that we got it right after just one > > round of discussion at Akademy, I think we should create proposals there > > more often ;-) > > > > Greetings, > > J --nextPart3870000.fcgEGgpcxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlID9QIACgkQ+wgQ1AD35ixQCQCgwzLVFdN2hARInA6OBBQwSJj8 8qkAnR4+HpJxtidGcJHpd4HGhju8//mr =KJq8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3870000.fcgEGgpcxt-- --===============5212353142971037009== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community --===============5212353142971037009==--