From kde-community Tue Jun 25 17:35:48 2013 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gustav_Gonz=E1lez?= Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:35:48 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: [kde-community] Tupi: Open 2D Magic Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=137218176108723 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============8634330031735025021==" --===============8634330031735025021== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15b117acbc0b04dffdf5ff --047d7b15b117acbc0b04dffdf5ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2013/6/24 Andreas Cord-Landwehr > ** > > On Monday 24 June 2013 11:08:34 Gustav Gonz=E1lez wrote: > > > 2013/6/24 Paul Gideon Dann > > > > > > > This is a question of who owns the copyright, which depends on the > > > > employment contract that Toonka had with its employees. If you want t= o > > > > switch back to GPLv2 in order to join KDE, though, I don't think you > need > > > > to do anything, since the code was GPLv2 before anyway, right? > > > > With a quick glance at the KTooN codebase, I made the following > observation: > > > > The KTooN commits from 2010-05-15 11:48 and 11:49 with message "Updating > license version from source code -> GPL 3" changed the license from "GPL = v2 > or any later version" to "GPL v3 or any later version". > > > > (Please correct me if I am wrong, the commits change about 1000 lines and > I did not check every change!) > > > > From my POV you have two options. Both include first asking _every_ > commiter following up the license change commits in a documented way if > they allow changing the license to "GPL v2 or any later version". After y= ou > received their approvals you can: > > > > Either > > * revert the two license change commits > > * do a rebase of all following commits > > * change newly introduced licenses > > > > Or > > * revert the license change commits and perform relicensing at once. > > > > I see no need to contact Monica about that issue, since all approvals tha= t > are necessary for doing the relicensing are from individual commiters (wh= o > commited after the relicense in 2010, as far as I understood). > > > > Greetings, > > Andreas > Hello there, It seems you are right, yesterday I was talking to a friend who has a wide knowledge of the GPL licenses and he told me the same. I just need the approval from all the developers who made contributions between the moment I changed the license of Tupi from GPL v2 to v3 and the present. If you take a look at the old KTooN repository, you will find out that the only user who made commits to the project from 2010, even before the change of license, was me (xtingray): http://svn.berlios.de/viewvc/ktoon/ About the repository of Tupi, you will be able to confirm that only Cristian Cepeda (he helped me to fix some .pro files to make possible the compilation of Tupi in OSX) and me were working on the code: https://github.com/xtingray/tupi/commits/master?page=3D20 About Cristian, I already contacted him and this was his answer: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cristian David Cepeda Piscal Date: 2013/6/25 Subject: Re: Question about Tupi license To: Gustav Gonz=E1lez Hello Gustavo, About the Tupi relicensing. I absolutely agree with the change of license, even more when it will help to spread the word about your project and to make it part of something so great as the KDE project. I have no objections. Do it! --=20 Cristian David Cepeda cristiandavid.cepeda@gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- So, now I'm definitely convinced that the change of license is absolutely legal. The logs of the repositories should work as evidence, right? I'll appreciate all your feedback about this matter. Thank you! --- PS: In case, someone believes that I made the change of the license of KTooN from GPL v2 to v3 without asking to Monica Ortiz (Toonka Films CEO in that time), here I found the "official account" of KTooN at Twitter. I created it at the time I was working with Monica and I wrote every one of the tweets that you'll find here: https://twitter.com/ktoon_net The one I want to hightlight is this: https://twitter.com/ktoon_net/status/14052613828 Why? Because all that I posted from that account was under the supervision/approval of Monica. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D Gustav Gonzalez xtingray@gmail.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D --047d7b15b117acbc0b04dffdf5ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2013/6/24 Andreas Cord-Landwehr <cordlandwehr@kde.org>

On Monday 24 June 2013 11:08:34 Gustav Gonz=E1lez wrote= :

> 2013/6/24 Paul Gideon Dann <pdgiddie@gmail.com>

>

> > This is a question of who owns the copyright,= which depends on the

> > employment contract that Toonka had with its = employees. If you want to

> > switch back to GPLv2 in order to join KDE, th= ough, I don't think you need

> > to do anything, since the code was GPLv2 befo= re anyway, right?

=A0

With a quick glance at the KTooN codebase, I made= the following observation:

=A0

The KTooN = commits from 2010-05-15 11:48 and 11:49 with message "Updating license= version from source code -> GPL 3" changed the license from "= GPL v2 or any later version" to "GPL v3 or any later version"= ;.

=A0

(Please co= rrect me if I am wrong, the commits change about 1000 lines and I did not c= heck every change!)

=A0

From my PO= V you have two options. Both include first asking _every_ commiter followin= g up the license change commits in a documented way if they allow changing = the license to "GPL v2 or any later version". After you received = their approvals you can:

=A0

Either

* revert t= he two license change commits

* do a reb= ase of all following commits

* change n= ewly introduced licenses

=A0

Or<= /p>

* revert t= he license change commits and perform relicensing at once.

=A0

I see no n= eed to contact Monica about that issue, since all approvals that are necess= ary for doing the relicensing are from individual commiters (who commited a= fter the relicense in 2010, as far as I understood).

=A0

Greetings,=

Andreas


Hello there,

It seems you are r= ight, yesterday I was talking to a friend who has a wide knowledge of the G= PL licenses and he told me
the same. I just need the approval from all the developers who made contrib= utions between the moment I changed the license
of Tupi from GPL v2 to v= 3 and the present.

If you take a look at the old KTooN repository, y= ou will find out that the only user who made commits to the project from 20= 10,
even before the change of license, was me (xtingray):

http://svn.berlios.de/viewvc/ktoon/
About the repository of Tupi, you will be able to confirm that only C= ristian Cepeda (he helped me to fix some .pro files
to make possible the compilation of Tupi in OSX) and me were working on the= code:

https://github.com/xtingray/tupi/commits/master?page=3D20
<= br> About Cristian, I already contacted him and this was his answer:

---= ------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Cristian David Cepeda Piscal <cristiandavid.cepeda@gmail.com>
Date: 2013/6/25
Subject: Re: Question about Tupi license
To: Gustav G= onz=E1lez <xtingray@gmail.com&= gt;

Hello Gustavo,

About the Tupi reli= censing.

I absolutely agree with the change of license, even more when it will=20 help to spread the word about your project and to make it part of=20 something so great as the KDE project. I have no objections. Do it!
--
Cristian David Cepeda
cristiandavid.cepeda@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------

So, now I'm definitely c= onvinced that the change of license is absolutely legal. The logs of the re= positories should
work as evidence, right?

I'll appreciate a= ll your feedback about this matter.
Thank you!

---

PS: In case, someone believes that I made the = change of the license of KTooN from GPL v2 to v3 without asking to Monica <= br>Ortiz (Toonka Films CEO in that time), here I found the "official a= ccount" of KTooN at Twitter. I created it at the time I was
working with Monica and I wrote every one of the tweets that you'll fin= d here:

= https://twitter.com/ktoon_net

The one I want to hightlight is th= is:

https://twitter.com/ktoon_net/status/14052613828

Why? Because all that I posted from that account was under the supervis= ion/approval of Monica.

--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=A0 Gustav Gonzalez
=A0 xtingray@gmail.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --047d7b15b117acbc0b04dffdf5ff-- --===============8634330031735025021== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community Please remember our Code of Conduct and assume good intentions from your fellow community members. --===============8634330031735025021==--