From kde-commits  Tue Sep 07 19:29:17 1999
From: Matthias Elter <me () main-echo ! net>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:29:17 +0000
To: kde-commits
Subject: Re: 1.1.2 (was: Re: KDE_1_1_BRANCH: kdeadmin)
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On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, Dirk A. Mueller wrote:
> Matthias Elter <me@main-echo.net> wrote:
> 
> > Dirk, how do you suggest democracy should work in a project like KDE?
> 
> The way it works everywhere else. Somebody brings up an issue, others
> are bringing in their opinions about it and then there is a result or a
> comprimise (an agreement) which is announced and then the "community"
> is willing to accept this.

Thats what has been done! But it was named 1.1.2 because of the changed
situation and new recommendations from kde-pr in the end. Sometimes one has to
make fast decitions.

> That's why we use email and mailinglists. Without communication
> the thing is just about to fail.
> 
> > Just think about the voting base, who should be allowed to vote?
> 
> Hey, I'm not talking about voting. voting is silly in a medium like
> internet. Always.
> 
> > It was planned to name the release 1.2 following the recommendations
> > of the pr team and lots of other people but the fact that KDevelop is
> > not going to be part of the release has changed the situation.
> 
> I've missed that thread. Where can I read it?

kde-pr@kde.org

> There were some very good arguments pro 1.2:

Yes, there were good arguments pro 1.2 but in the end there were better
arguments pro 1.1.2. As I already mentioned the situation changed.

> - it's easier for PR, easier to remember and to tell novice. (From my
> personal experience, most
> not-so-nerded-slashdot-readers-but-still-using-linux users don't know
> that there is a difference between KDE 1.1 and KDE 1.1.1)
> (it was funny to hear the crack-jaw "KDE 1.1.1" everywhere on LinuxTag
> here)
> 
> - the great work of the artists team alone satisfies a v1.2. I know
> that there are not much changes to the code base. But why are we
> measuring the version number in the LOC changed? I believe that this
> was an enormous amount of work to do, and it was NO BUGFIX ONLY thing.

Yes, I agree 1.1.2 is not a bugfix only release but it isn't a minor
release, too. It's somewhere in between and in the release dude's opinion
closer to a bugfix release. Amen. 

(...snip...)

> > Delaying the relase to start a new "1.2 - 1.1.2" discussion on
> > kde-devel?
> 
> No. Now it has happened, it's too late to wine about the decision. I
> know this. I'm just bitching, but not trying to start another flamewar.
> 
> > Thanks for respecting the decision of the release dude.
> 
> I always thought Matthias Hoelzer is the release dude, because there
> was quite some release confusion the time when KDE 1.1.1 was about to
> release. But maybe I've also missed that thread where this has changed.

Matthias _is_ the release dude, who said he is not?

Greetings, Matthias

-- 
Matthias Elter
me@kde.org / me@main-echo.net
KDE developer