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List:       jabber-jadmin
Subject:    Re: [jadmin] Jabber clients
From:       "Paul Agner" <paul () bentmonkey ! com>
Date:       2003-05-21 19:23:52
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Exodus is by far the best client hands down! It is the most complete, well
thought out. The source code is clean and commented! As far as your access
violations go... that is a windows error and not Exodus! Windows sometimes
will not shut down processes properly; or just takes a long time... happens
all the time in xp... Delphi kicks butt and uses less dll files than C++
....  my 2cents!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trent Melcher" <tmelcher@trilogytel.com>
To: <jadmin@jabber.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: [jadmin] Jabber clients


> I have been using the jabber.com's client for about a year now and havent
> had any problems with it,  it does lack a few features (emoticons for one)
> but most are not important in the Corporate world (nice to have's).
>
> I have looked out at their site http://www.jabber.com  but it looks like
all
> they have out there it a trial for the new Jabber Messenger.  I do have a
> copy if anyone wants it email me offlist and I will email it to you.
>
> Trent
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jadmin-admin@jabber.org [mailto:jadmin-admin@jabber.org]On Behalf
> Of William E. Kempf
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:54 AM
> To: jadmin@jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [jadmin] Jabber clients
>
>
>
> Jeremy Lunn said:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 11:29:13AM -0400, jabber@brevo.com wrote:
> >> RhymBox is IMHO the best client for the end-user. Futhermore, it's
> >> installation is painless and download size is about 2Meg.
> >>
> >> There is also a file transfer feature, plugin support (RSS feeds,
> >> etc.).
> >
> > Has RhymBox got a dock applet yet?
>
> Dock applet?
>
> >  I find users are too used to closing
> > the window expecting the IM program to keep running.
>
> This works in 1.6 at least.
>
> >  Until RhymBox has
> > solved that I guess I'll continue to recommend Psi.  The other problem
> > is that RhymBox isn't really open source and it runs like a hog.
>
> RhymBox includes source.  Of course, it's based on ATEClient, which
> doesn't appear to be open source.
>
> As for running like a hog... it runs very well for me.  It does appear to
> take about 7.8 MB of ram.  That seems fairly large for something as simple
> as a chat program, to me at least... but Psi appears to take 7.5 MB as
> well.  Exodus hits 8 MB.  So I don't see any reason to label RhymBox as a
> "hog".  I like the UI for RhymBox more than most of the others.  It's
> sleek and professional looking, while remaining easy to use.  Psi I find
> to be gaudy.  Exodus isn't bad in looks, but a lot of it is non-intuitive
> on use.  I've also looked at MyJabber, Yabber, an Rival. Here's my remarks
> on all of these.
>
> Exodus:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured. Plugin architecture (but where are the plugins?). Clean
> interface.
>   Cons:
>     Many functions are not very user friendly (such as having two ways to
> register with transports, with the easiest method to find being the
> most difficult to actually use, requiring you to know what transports
> are available, and what they are named on the server).  Buggy.  Just
> yesterday two of us experienced repeated "access violation" errors
> that did not halt the program.  Unfortunately, just clicking on the
> menu would cause another access violation, which again, did not bring
> the app down, which resulted in a trip to TaskManager to get rid of
> it.  Another CON is that it's programmed in a proprietary language.
> Not many developers will have access to Delphi.
>
> RhymBox:
>   Pros:
>     Very, *very* clean interface.  This is what an IM client should look
> like.  Intuitive interface.  From a usability stand point, this one
> stands above all the others.
>   Cons:
>     Unfortunately, there are a few bugs, but none of them have caused a
> crash thus far and can be worked around.  Only been running it for two
> days now, but this is my current client of choice.
>
> Psi:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured.
>   Cons:
>     The UI is so gaudy, I didn't give it much more of a chance.
>
> MyJabber:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured.  Fairly clean interface.
>   Cons:
>     Missing some bells and whistles features.  Definately buggy.
> Experienced several crashes using this one.
>
> Yabber:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured.  Very good design.  This one ranks second for me on
> look and feel.  Some of the things I disliked could easily be
> accounted for with a few more preference settings.  The author has
> published a design guide at http://www.yabber.org/design/, which is
> something all Jabber client authors should read!
>   Cons:
>     Buggy.  This is alpha software, and it shows.  Several crashes, as
> well as other bugs that I'd consider show stoppers.  For instance,
> "always on top" functionality seems to be coded the hard way, which
> results in the window "jumping" back to the top after being obscured
> by another window, which is jarring.  Worse yet, some of it's own
> windows/menus become obscured and unusable when this feature is
> enabled.
>
> Rival:
>   Pros:
>     Nice looking interface.
>   Cons:
>     Minimal functionality.  Appears to be a pre-alpha release to me.
>
>
> We're using Jabber as a corporate solution, so we need a bug free client
> (within reason, of course).  We also want a clean interface that doesn't
> lack in functionality.  Finding this ideal client has certainly not been
> easy. :(
>
> --
> William E. Kempf
>
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