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List:       jabber-jadmin
Subject:    Re: [jadmin] Jabber clients
From:       Shawn Gordon <shawn () thekompany ! com>
Date:       2003-05-21 15:13:15
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take a look at http://www.thekompany.com/products/aethera/tkjabberpro/ 
which is our commercial client, we are testing the new release right now 
that has file transfer capability, you might also be interested in its 
companion white boarding app 
http://www.thekompany.com/products/aethera/tkwhiteboard/ that runs on top 
of jabber.

We also have a free version at http://www.thekompany.com/projects/tkjabber/ 
- these all run on Linux and Windows, we'll be doing a Mac port in the near 
future.

Shawn

At 07:54 AM 5/21/2003, you wrote:

>Jeremy Lunn said:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 11:29:13AM -0400, jabber@brevo.com wrote:
> >> RhymBox is IMHO the best client for the end-user. Futhermore, it's
> >> installation is painless and download size is about 2Meg.
> >>
> >> There is also a file transfer feature, plugin support (RSS feeds,
> >> etc.).
> >
> > Has RhymBox got a dock applet yet?
>
>Dock applet?
>
> >  I find users are too used to closing
> > the window expecting the IM program to keep running.
>
>This works in 1.6 at least.
>
> >  Until RhymBox has
> > solved that I guess I'll continue to recommend Psi.  The other problem
> > is that RhymBox isn't really open source and it runs like a hog.
>
>RhymBox includes source.  Of course, it's based on ATEClient, which
>doesn't appear to be open source.
>
>As for running like a hog... it runs very well for me.  It does appear to
>take about 7.8 MB of ram.  That seems fairly large for something as simple
>as a chat program, to me at least... but Psi appears to take 7.5 MB as
>well.  Exodus hits 8 MB.  So I don't see any reason to label RhymBox as a
>"hog".  I like the UI for RhymBox more than most of the others.  It's
>sleek and professional looking, while remaining easy to use.  Psi I find
>to be gaudy.  Exodus isn't bad in looks, but a lot of it is non-intuitive
>on use.  I've also looked at MyJabber, Yabber, an Rival. Here's my remarks
>on all of these.
>
>Exodus:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured. Plugin architecture (but where are the plugins?). Clean
>interface.
>   Cons:
>     Many functions are not very user friendly (such as having two ways to
>register with transports, with the easiest method to find being the
>most difficult to actually use, requiring you to know what transports
>are available, and what they are named on the server).  Buggy.  Just
>yesterday two of us experienced repeated "access violation" errors
>that did not halt the program.  Unfortunately, just clicking on the
>menu would cause another access violation, which again, did not bring
>the app down, which resulted in a trip to TaskManager to get rid of
>it.  Another CON is that it's programmed in a proprietary language.
>Not many developers will have access to Delphi.
>
>RhymBox:
>   Pros:
>     Very, *very* clean interface.  This is what an IM client should look
>like.  Intuitive interface.  From a usability stand point, this one
>stands above all the others.
>   Cons:
>     Unfortunately, there are a few bugs, but none of them have caused a
>crash thus far and can be worked around.  Only been running it for two
>days now, but this is my current client of choice.
>
>Psi:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured.
>   Cons:
>     The UI is so gaudy, I didn't give it much more of a chance.
>
>MyJabber:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured.  Fairly clean interface.
>   Cons:
>     Missing some bells and whistles features.  Definately buggy.
>Experienced several crashes using this one.
>
>Yabber:
>   Pros:
>     Full featured.  Very good design.  This one ranks second for me on
>look and feel.  Some of the things I disliked could easily be
>accounted for with a few more preference settings.  The author has
>published a design guide at http://www.yabber.org/design/, which is
>something all Jabber client authors should read!
>   Cons:
>     Buggy.  This is alpha software, and it shows.  Several crashes, as
>well as other bugs that I'd consider show stoppers.  For instance,
>"always on top" functionality seems to be coded the hard way, which
>results in the window "jumping" back to the top after being obscured
>by another window, which is jarring.  Worse yet, some of it's own
>windows/menus become obscured and unusable when this feature is
>enabled.
>
>Rival:
>   Pros:
>     Nice looking interface.
>   Cons:
>     Minimal functionality.  Appears to be a pre-alpha release to me.
>
>
>We're using Jabber as a corporate solution, so we need a bug free client
>(within reason, of course).  We also want a clean interface that doesn't
>lack in functionality.  Finding this ideal client has certainly not been
>easy. :(
>
>--
>William E. Kempf
>
>
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Regards,

Shawn Gordon
President
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