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List:       gtk-devel
Subject:    Re: non-latin accelerator keys
From:       Matthias Clasen <matthias.clasen () gmail ! com>
Date:       2005-12-27 18:20:19
Message-ID: cbccc63c0512271020r55952012x89e6a96ebef38ce9 () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 12/21/05, Abel Cheung <abelcheung@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 12/22/05, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@redhat.com> wrote:
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323956
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104112
> >
> > The first bug complains about the fact that the "(_F)" form in which
> > many CJK strings display the accelerator is not fully stripped out
> > when showing the string in a toolbar, and you end up with "(F)" in
> > the visible string.
> >
> > I am considering to change gtk_toolbar_elide_underscores() to strip not
> > only lone _ characters, but also a sequence of the form " (_<single
> > character>)" at the end of the string.
> >
> > I have a number of questions here:
> > - Does this sound like a reasonable thing to do ? (the risk of
> >   accidentally stripping something thats not an accelerator is
> >   probably minimal, but not 0.
>
> Indeed, there can be cases where a single CJK character is enclosed inside
> parenthesis, and that's not uncommon; although when enclosed
> character is a latin character it mostly means mnemonic key.
>
>
> > - Is the (_F) approach generally considered just a workaround for
> >   the second bug, or are there languages where it is the
> >   preferred/standard way to display accel keys ?
>
> Well, it is preferred, since multiple keystrokes are needed to input
> non-latin characters, and I doubt if anything like Alt-<char> can
> be entered at all. Hope anybody can enlighten me if this is
> possible or not.



Ok,  GTK+ 2.10 will strip out a suffix of the form "(_<single character>)"
in
addition to underlines, when displaying labels in toolbars. Please let me
know if you
notice any problems due to this.

Matthias

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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/21/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Abel \
Cheung</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:abelcheung@gmail.com">abelcheung@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br><br>On 12/22/05, \
Matthias Clasen &lt;<a href="mailto:mclasen@redhat.com">mclasen@redhat.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br>&gt; <a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323956">http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323956
 </a><br>&gt; <a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104112">http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104112</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
The first bug complains about the fact that the &quot;(_F)&quot; form in which<br> \
&gt; many CJK strings display the accelerator is not fully stripped out<br>&gt; when \
showing the string in a toolbar, and you end up with &quot;(F)&quot; in<br>&gt; the \
visible string.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am considering to change \
gtk_toolbar_elide_underscores() to strip not <br>&gt; only lone _ characters, but \
also a sequence of the form &quot; (_&lt;single<br>&gt; character&gt;)&quot; at the \
end of the string.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I have a number of questions here:<br>&gt; - Does \
this sound like a reasonable thing to do ? (the risk of <br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
accidentally stripping something thats not an accelerator is<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
probably minimal, but not 0.<br><br>Indeed, there can be cases where a single CJK \
character is enclosed inside<br>parenthesis, and that's not uncommon; although when \
enclosed <br>character is a latin character it mostly means mnemonic \
key.<br><br><br>&gt; - Is the (_F) approach generally considered just a workaround \
for<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; the second bug, or are there languages where it is \
the<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; preferred/standard way to display accel keys ? <br><br>Well, \
it is preferred, since multiple keystrokes are needed to input<br>non-latin \
characters, and I doubt if anything like Alt-&lt;char&gt; can<br>be entered at all. \
Hope anybody can enlighten me if this is<br>possible or not. \
</blockquote><div><br><br>Ok,&nbsp; GTK+ 2.10 will strip out a suffix of the form \
&quot;(_&lt;single character&gt;)&quot; in<br>addition to underlines, when displaying \
labels in toolbars. Please let me know if you<br>notice any problems due to this. \
<br></div><br>Matthias<br></div><br>



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