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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Not now (David Timms)
2. Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
(David Boles)
3. Re: OT: USB<->Ethernet printer server for router
(Mikkel L. Ellertson)
4. Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
(Paul Smith)
5. Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
(Paul Smith)
6. Re: Installing F7/8 Live - GDM fails with old cirrus card
(GD5480) (Kam Leo)
7. Re: Not now (Jacques B.)
8. Re: Wireless problem on F8 -- can't access secured networks
(Tod Merley)
9. links in konquer's 'edit bookmarks' and in pan's news
messages do not work (charles f. zeitler)
10. Re: Fedora and Ubuntu (Ric Moore)
11. Re: Fedora and Ubuntu (Kam Leo)
12. Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
(David Boles)
13. What does this (error) message mean? (clemens@dwf.com)
14. Re: OT: USB<->Ethernet printer server for router (Dotan Cohen)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:08:06 +1100
From: David Timms
Subject: Re: Not now
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <47521386.9040700@iinet.net.au>
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Karl Larsen wrote:
> Someone last night got on my setup for this login and set it to send
> no email to me. I turned on and there was no fedora list mail. Had to
> work and just fixed the problem. Now things are good again. Sure hope
> the person who did this will stop. It is no fun causing others problems.
I hope you invented a new password for your redhat lists !
DaveT.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:09:15 -0500
From: David Boles
Subject: Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
To: For users of Fedora
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Paul Smith wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2007 12:35 AM, David Boles wrote:
>> Hmmm... you didn't copy any of this from another install did you?
>
> Yes, I did copy it from a F7 installation. Is it relevant?
I am just a long time user. It would take someone more skilled than I am
at this to explain it.
I think it is Antonio that has suggexsted checking file setting and
permissions. As I recall just copying can change these.
As an experiment. Close TB and do *not* delete the hidden TB folder
(.thunderbird) in your home folder but rename something. say
dot.thunderbird. Open TB and it will make a completely new one. Then see
if the dictionary will install in that one. That would tell you *if*
permissions changed, are different, from your original one and the new
one. I would write these new ones down and match them to the old one.
Might work. Won't hurt.
- --
David
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:24:28 -0600
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson"
Subject: Re: OT: USB<->Ethernet printer server for router
To: For users of Fedora
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Anthony Messina wrote:
> On Saturday 01 December 2007 04:56:06 pm Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Thanks. Now I don't have to dig up a long USB cable or move the MFD
>> to test it myself. One reason I picked a network printer was because
>> there was not room near the computer for it.
>>
>
> it's a little pricey, but depending on how your place is wired, you could try
> the
>
> XTENDEX® USB-C5-LC
> http://www.networktechinc.com/usbc5.html
>
> i use two of these and it's the same as having things connected locally. works
> with my scanner too.
>
Thats OK. The Brother MFC-7820N works well for me. I can manage it,
print to it, or scan from it, from any computer on the local
network. My Linux boxes find it automatically, and setting up and XP
machine to use it, wile a bit more work, is still easy. (CUPS has
the print drivers for it.) Given a choice, I prefer to use a network
printer, or a printer connected to a print server over a directly
connected printer. I have had too many occasions where someone
suddenly remember something they needed to print while I was in the
middle of an upgrade. It usually happens when I have the system torn
apart on my workbench, or 15 minutes into a version upgrade. This
way, they can print from their system directly to the printer.
Mikkel
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:49:42 +0000
From: "Paul Smith"
Subject: Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
To: "For users of Fedora"
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On Dec 2, 2007 2:43 AM, Paul Smith
wrote:
> > >> Hmmm... you didn't copy any of this from another install did you?
> > >
> > > Yes, I did copy it from a F7 installation. Is it relevant?
> >
> > I am just a long time user. It would take someone more skilled than I am
> > at this to explain it.
> >
> > I think it is Antonio that has suggexsted checking file setting and
> > permissions. As I recall just copying can change these.
> >
> > As an experiment. Close TB and do *not* delete the hidden TB folder
> > (.thunderbird) in your home folder but rename something. say
> > dot.thunderbird. Open TB and it will make a completely new one. Then see
> > if the dictionary will install in that one. That would tell you *if*
> > permissions changed, are different, from your original one and the new
> > one. I would write these new ones down and match them to the old one.
> > Might work. Won't hurt.
>
> Thanks, David. Tried that, but with no success. However,
>
> # dir -l /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 668187 2003-02-13 15:01
> /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic
> # dir -l /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5687 2003-02-13 15:01
> /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff
> #
>
> According to
>
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/dictionaries.html
>
> «Alternatively, OpenOffice.org also uses dictionary files compatible
> with Thunderbird. To install the OpenOffice.org dictionaries, copy the
> *.dic and *.aff files from the zip file to the components/myspell
> directory of your Thunderbird installation.»
>
> That is really strange!
Success now, with the method 'Installing by drag-and-drop' at:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Dictionaries_(Thunderbird)
Thanks for everything, David!
Paul
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:43:01 +0000
From: "Paul Smith"
Subject: Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on F8
To: "For users of Fedora"
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<6ade6f6c0712011843wd254875u10806651f080d683@mail.gmail.com>
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On Dec 2, 2007 2:09 AM, David Boles wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 2007 12:35 AM, David Boles wrote:
> >> Hmmm... you didn't copy any of this from another install did you?
> >
> > Yes, I did copy it from a F7 installation. Is it relevant?
>
> I am just a long time user. It would take someone more skilled than I am
> at this to explain it.
>
> I think it is Antonio that has suggexsted checking file setting and
> permissions. As I recall just copying can change these.
>
> As an experiment. Close TB and do *not* delete the hidden TB folder
> (.thunderbird) in your home folder but rename something. say
> dot.thunderbird. Open TB and it will make a completely new one. Then see
> if the dictionary will install in that one. That would tell you *if*
> permissions changed, are different, from your original one and the new
> one. I would write these new ones down and match them to the old one.
> Might work. Won't hurt.
Thanks, David. Tried that, but with no success. However,
# dir -l /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 668187 2003-02-13 15:01
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic
# dir -l /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5687 2003-02-13 15:01
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff
#
According to
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/dictionaries.html
«Alternatively, OpenOffice.org also uses dictionary files compatible
with Thunderbird. To install the OpenOffice.org dictionaries, copy the
*.dic and *.aff files from the zip file to the components/myspell
directory of your Thunderbird installation.»
That is really strange!
Paul
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:05:53 -0800
From: "Kam Leo"
Subject: Re: Installing F7/8 Live - GDM fails with old cirrus card
(GD5480)
To: "For users of Fedora"
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On Dec 1, 2007 3:01 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
> Bummer...
>
> At least with FC4/5, I was able to install install the OS with GDM
> working, but with F7/8 Live support, it seems that my old Cirrus
> Logic GD5480 crapped out. Yeah I know, I am an oldie here but
> never mind that. Look - there is a pretty girl over there (points the
> finger away from self).... Ah, now let's continue shall we? ;-)
>
> Well...
>
> When I ran the F8 Live, the GDM failed to start up - it never got
> that far at all - just flashed several times - I get it, time to Alt-F1,
> log in as root, and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
>
> At least there was the cirrus entry, so it is recognized...
>
> [...]
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Driver "cirrus"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen0"
> Device "Videocard0"
> DefaultDepth 24
> EndSection
>
> Ah, DefaultDepth 24!?!? I guess you need to have the latest newfangled
> videocards these days, or a newer computer than the one you had purchased
> many years ago. Sheesh, I must be getting really old...
>
> Anyway, I updated the xorg.conf file as follows:
>
> [...]
>
> Section "Screen0"
> Device "Videocard0"
> DefaultDepth 16
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport 0 0
> Depth 16
> Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
>
> Yup! That seemed to do the trick. I am able to get a sensible gui now and can get
> back to installing F8. Note, I was forced to provide the Modes as above otherwise
> xorg takes the highest default resolution (over that of 1024x768 somewhere) and
> restarts over and over till it gives up.
>
> But here is a question for you (xorg) developer folks... why is it that the videocards
> are not searching for a resolution that works, i.e. should go all the way down to
> 1024x768, 800x600 or even 640x480 so that GUI screen can appear?
>
> Bummer.
You're addressing the wrong crowd. Address your missive to the XORG
developers. You do realize (maybe not) that laptops are out selling
desktops. In a few more years none of the new developers will have
touched a video card/adapter/chipset made by any one other than
Nvidia, AMD, or Intel.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:27:53 -0500
From: "Jacques B."
Subject: Re: Not now
To: "For users of Fedora"
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On Dec 1, 2007 6:46 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Someone last night got on my setup for this login and set it to send
> no email to me. I turned on and there was no fedora list mail. Had to
> work and just fixed the problem. Now things are good again. Sure hope
> the person who did this will stop. It is no fun causing others problems.
>
>
> Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> Linux User
> #450462 http://counter.li.org.
Not to mention illegal. Regardless what differences people may have
with you or someone else on the list, that is not an acceptable way to
deal with it. You may want to contact the list administrator to find
out if they log IPs that connected to your account. If so the
attacker's ISP can be identified which in turn their records can lead
the proper authorities to the attacker. Even if you don't pursue a
criminal complaint you can at minimum pursue a complaint with the ISP
of that IP who in turn can take whatever disciplinary action they see
appropriate.
And the suggestion by David to make sure you change your password (and
secret question if applicable) is a very good one.
Jacques B.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:52:46 -0800
From: "Tod Merley"
Subject: Re: Wireless problem on F8 -- can't access secured networks
To: "For users of Fedora"
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On Nov 30, 2007 8:43 AM, Tom Stewart wrote:
> I've installed F8 on an IBM ThinkPad R40 with an IBM High Rate
> wireless card. The wireless card is recognized as an Atheros AR5212.
> NetworkManager starts up fine, and I can connect to unencrypted AP's
> OK (like my neighbor's), but I can't connect to protected networks
> (like mine).
>
> I've previously had Windows XP then Ubuntu on this box, and neither
> had a problem connecting, so I am pretty confident that it's not a
> hardware/compatibility issue. I've configured wpa_supplicant to run
> via Service Configuration, which tells me that it is running. WPA
> passphrases seem to get stored in the keyring OK.
>
> In attempting to troubleshoot this, here's what I've discovered. When
> booting, there is a fairly long delay, which causes the Details window
> to pop up automatically. The delay is in starting wpa_supplicant, and
> in fact, an error is noted:
>
> Starting wpa_supplicant: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, ,
> dbus_bus_get[ctrl_iface_dbus]: No such file or directory
>
> Now, there is a file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, owned by
> root and with rw permissions for owner. I haven't touched this, and I
> assume it is correct. So I wonder if the dbus_bus_get[ctrl_iface_dbus]
> is the thing that's complaining. Searching on that string yields [1]
> some source code:
>
> /* Get a reference to the system bus */
> dbus_error_init(&error);
> iface->con = dbus_bus_get(DBUS_BUS_SYSTEM, &error);
> dbus_error_free(&error);
> if (!iface->con) {
> perror("dbus_bus_get[ctrl_iface_dbus]");
> wpa_printf(MSG_ERROR, "Could not acquire the system bus.");
> goto fail;
> }
>
> which looks like it might print that string followed by an error, but
> then it should also be displaying (somewhere?) the "Could not acquire
> the system bus." which I haven't found.
>
> The other data point I have is that in the system log, when attempting
> to connect, I see the following error msg:
>
> Nov 18 20:56:29 think NetworkManager: Device 'wlan0' DHCP
> transaction took too long (>45s), stopping it.
>
> Can anyone help me get my wireless up and running on this guy? Where
> do I go next?
>
> [1]
> http://www.koders.com/c/fid085500CFE02FD84CFEB332AE71A50A1E37F81D1A.aspx?s=base64
>
> --Tom
>
>
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Hi Tom Stewart!
I am working on the same problem, so far I have not gotten arround to
trying the results of the following research. For what it is worth:
Here:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=171361
I found:
Originally Posted by c0d3g33k
Yes, you can use the old NetworkManager, and yes it does work better
than the current P.O.S. ... err, ummm, work in progress.
You have to uninstall the current NetworkManager and dependencies,
then find a Fedora mirror that still has the 7.90 test release and
install the networkmanager components. You'll suffer from constant
nagging from the Update utility, but your wireless networking will
actually be functional.
NOTE!!!!: Download the necessary packages first if your network
connection depends on NetworkManager.
I don't recall exactly what is removed, but a "yum erase
NetworkManager" will take care of the dependencies for you.
>From the Fedora 7.90 mirror download:
NetworkManager
knetworkmanager
krb5-auth-dialog
dhcdbd
dhclient
If you are running Gnome, you probably want to grab
NetworkManager-glib and NetworkManager-gnome too (I'm running KDE, so
don't need them).
Install them using "yum localinstall
" and enjoy functional
networking again.
BINGO! Thanks man. This worked like a charm. The only difference was,
I used rpm instead of yum. I was having issues with yum wanting to
remove pidgin as well. Just as a note, pidgin still works (just opened
it and things logged in, nothing more). Here's what I ran:
sudo rpm --nodeps -e NetworkManager NetworkManager-glib
NetworkManager-gnome krb5-auth-dialog nautilus-sendto
Hopefully, they'll get that fixed very soon and release an update. Not
sure why this wasn't noticed in the release candidates?
Anyway, makes me feel better. Lol... I was thinking it was something much more.
Another Path:
Jacques B Nov 9
Reply
Got wireless to work with WPA-PSK. The solution was at
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showpost.php?p=857006&postcount=52
As root I edited /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf so that it
contained the following:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=wheel
network={
ssid="your ssid"
psk="your passphrase"
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
}
The first two lines were already there. I added the remaining lines
as per the the instructions on the site above.
I then ran
# ifconfig wlan0 up
# wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd
(the process didn't exit so it seemed, but after doing the next
command successfully I was able to close this window anyhow).
Then in another terminal window as root I ran
# dhclient wlan0
I could then close both the windows and the wireless worked. I went
into system-config-network-gui (either via command line or via System,
Administrator, Network) and ensured that my wireless card was checked
off so that it will start up on reboot (haven't rebooted yet but I am
fairly confident it will work - if not I will repost to that effect -
otherwise it worked).
Jacques B.
Good Hunting!
Tod
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:04:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "charles f. zeitler"
Subject: links in konquer's 'edit bookmarks' and in pan's news
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<MIKKEL@INFINITY-LTD.COM><BR>Subject: Re: OT: USB<->Ethernet printer server for \
router<BR>To: For users of Fedora <FEDORA-LIST@REDHAT.COM><BR>Message-ID: \
<4752175C.3080906@infinity-ltd.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; \
charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Anthony Messina wrote:<BR>> On Saturday 01 December \
2007 04:56:06 pm Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:<BR>>> Thanks. Now I don't have to \
dig up a long USB cable or move the MFD<BR>>> to test it myself. One reason I \
picked a network printer was because<BR>>> there was not room near the computer \
for it.<BR>>><BR>> <BR>> it's a little pricey, but depending on how your \
place is wired, you could try <BR>> the<BR>> <BR>> XTENDEX® \
USB-C5-LC<BR>> http://www.networktechinc.com/usbc5.html<BR>> <BR>> i use two \
of these and it's the same as having things connected locally. works <BR>> with my \
scanner too.<BR>> <BR>Thats OK. The Brother MFC-7820N works well for me. I can \
manage it,<BR>print to it, or scan from it, from any computer on the \
local<BR>network. My Linux boxes find it automatically, and setting up and \
XP<BR>machine to use it, wile a bit more work, is still easy. (CUPS has<BR>the print \
drivers for it.) Given a choice, I prefer to use a network<BR>printer, or a printer \
connected to a print server over a directly<BR>connected printer. I have had too many \
occasions where someone<BR>suddenly remember something they needed to print while I \
was in the<BR>middle of an upgrade. It usually happens when I have the system \
torn<BR>apart on my workbench, or 15 minutes into a version upgrade. This<BR>way, \
they can print from their system directly to the printer.<BR><BR>Mikkel<BR>-- \
<BR><BR>Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,<BR>for thou art crunchy and taste \
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4<BR>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:49:42 +0000<BR>From: "Paul Smith" \
<PHHS80@GMAIL.COM><BR>Subject: Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on \
F8<BR>To: "For users of Fedora" \
<FEDORA-LIST@REDHAT.COM><BR>Message-ID:<BR><6ade6f6c0712011849w70dead5cj6e49c186121f05fb@mail.gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: \
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>On Dec 2, 2007 2:43 AM, Paul Smith \
<PHHS80@GMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR>> > >> Hmmm... you didn't copy any of this \
from another install did you?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Yes, I did copy it \
from a F7 installation. Is it relevant?<BR>> ><BR>> > I am just a long \
time user. It would take someone more skilled than I am<BR>> > at this to \
explain it.<BR>> ><BR>> > I think it is Antonio that has suggexsted \
checking file setting and<BR>> > permissions. As I recall just copying can \
change these.<BR>> ><BR>> > As an experiment. Close TB and do *not* \
delete the hidden TB folder<BR>> > (.thunderbird) in your home folder but \
rename something. say<BR>> > dot.thunderbird. Open TB and it will make a \
completely new one. Then see<BR>> > if the dictionary will install in that one. \
That would tell you *if*<BR>> > permissions changed, are different, from your \
original one and the new<BR>> > one. I would write these new ones down and \
match them to the old one.<BR>> > Might work. Won't hurt.<BR>><BR>> \
Thanks, David. Tried that, but with no success. However,<BR>><BR>> # dir -l \
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic<BR>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root \
root 668187 2003-02-13 15:01<BR>> \
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic<BR>> # dir -l \
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff<BR>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root \
root 5687 2003-02-13 15:01<BR>> \
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff<BR>> #<BR>><BR>> \
According to<BR>><BR>> \
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/dictionaries.html<BR>><BR>> \
«Alternatively, OpenOffice.org also uses dictionary files compatible<BR>> with \
Thunderbird. To install the OpenOffice.org dictionaries, copy the<BR>> *.dic and \
*.aff files from the zip file to the components/myspell<BR>> directory of your \
Thunderbird installation.»<BR>><BR>> That is really strange!<BR><BR>Success \
now, with the method 'Installing by drag-and-drop' \
at:<BR><BR>http://kb.mozillazine.org/Dictionaries_(Thunderbird)<BR><BR>Thanks for \
everything, David!<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: \
5<BR>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:43:01 +0000<BR>From: "Paul Smith" \
<PHHS80@GMAIL.COM><BR>Subject: Re: Installing thunderbird non-English dictionaries on \
F8<BR>To: "For users of Fedora" \
<FEDORA-LIST@REDHAT.COM><BR>Message-ID:<BR><6ade6f6c0712011843wd254875u10806651f080d683@mail.gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: \
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>On Dec 2, 2007 2:09 AM, David Boles \
<DGBOLES@GMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR>> > On Dec 2, 2007 12:35 AM, David Boles \
<DGBOLES@GMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR>> >> Hmmm... you didn't copy any of this from \
another install did you?<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes, I did copy it from a F7 \
installation. Is it relevant?<BR>><BR>> I am just a long time user. It would \
take someone more skilled than I am<BR>> at this to explain it.<BR>><BR>> I \
think it is Antonio that has suggexsted checking file setting and<BR>> \
permissions. As I recall just copying can change these.<BR>><BR>> As an \
experiment. Close TB and do *not* delete the hidden TB folder<BR>> (.thunderbird) \
in your home folder but rename something. say<BR>> dot.thunderbird. Open TB and it \
will make a completely new one. Then see<BR>> if the dictionary will install in \
that one. That would tell you *if*<BR>> permissions changed, are different, from \
your original one and the new<BR>> one. I would write these new ones down and \
match them to the old one.<BR>> Might work. Won't hurt.<BR><BR>Thanks, David. \
Tried that, but with no success. However,<BR><BR># dir -l \
/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic<BR>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root \
668187 2003-02-13 15:01<BR>/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.dic<BR># \
dir -l /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff<BR>-rw-r--r-- 1 root \
root 5687 2003-02-13 \
15:01<BR>/usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.0.9/components/myspell/en-GB.aff<BR>#<BR><BR>According \
to<BR><BR>http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/dictionaries.html<BR><BR>«Alternatively, \
OpenOffice.org also uses dictionary files compatible<BR>with Thunderbird. To install \
the OpenOffice.org dictionaries, copy the<BR>*.dic and *.aff files from the zip file \
to the components/myspell<BR>directory of your Thunderbird installation.»<BR><BR>That \
is really strange!<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: \
6<BR>Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:05:53 -0800<BR>From: "Kam Leo" \
<KAM.LEO@GMAIL.COM><BR>Subject: Re: Installing F7/8 Live - GDM fails with old cirrus \
card<BR>(GD5480)<BR>To: "For users of Fedora" \
<FEDORA-LIST@REDHAT.COM><BR>Message-ID:<BR><F84880B00712011905P28361DD8OD642604AC14DBC00@MAIL.GMAIL.COM><BR>Content-Type: \
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>On Dec 1, 2007 3:01 PM, Daniel B. Thurman \
<DANT@CDKKT.COM>wrote:<BR>><BR>> Bummer...<BR>><BR>> At least with \
FC4/5, I was able to install install the OS with GDM<BR>> working, but with F7/8 \
Live support, it seems that my old Cirrus<BR>> Logic GD5480 crapped out. Yeah I \
know, I am an oldie here but<BR>> never mind that. Look - there is a pretty girl \
over there (points the<BR>> finger away from self).... Ah, now let's continue \
shall we? ;-)<BR>><BR>> Well...<BR>><BR>> When I ran the F8 Live, the GDM \
failed to start up - it never got<BR>> that far at all - just flashed several \
times - I get it, time to Alt-F1,<BR>> log in as root, and edit the \
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file.<BR>><BR>> At least there was the cirrus entry, so it \
is recognized...<BR>><BR>> [...]<BR>><BR>> Section "Device"<BR>> \
Identifier "Screen0"<BR>> Driver "cirrus"<BR>> EndSection<BR>><BR>> \
Section "Screen0"<BR>> Device "Videocard0"<BR>> DefaultDepth 24<BR>> \
EndSection<BR>><BR>> Ah, DefaultDepth 24!?!? I guess you need to have the \
latest newfangled<BR>> videocards these days, or a newer computer than the one you \
had purchased<BR>> many years ago. Sheesh, I must be getting really \
old...<BR>><BR>> Anyway, I updated the xorg.conf file as \
follows:<BR>><BR>> [...]<BR>><BR>> Section "Screen0"<BR>> Device \
"Videocard0"<BR>> DefaultDepth 16<BR>> SubSection "Display"<BR>> Viewport 0 \
0<BR>> Depth 16<BR>> Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480<BR>> \
EndSubSection<BR>> EndSection<BR>><BR>><BR>> Yup! That seemed to do the \
trick. I am able to get a sensible gui now and can get<BR>> back to installing F8. \
Note, I was forced to provide the Modes as above otherwise<BR>> xorg takes the \
highest default resolution (over that of 1024x768 somewhere) and<BR>> restarts \
over and over till it gives up.<BR>><BR>> But here is a question for you (xorg) \
developer folks... why is it that the videocards<BR>> are not searching for a \
resolution that works, i.e. should go all the way down to<BR>> 1024x768, 800x600 \
or even 640x480 so that GUI screen can appear?<BR>><BR>> Bummer.<BR><BR>You're \
addressing the wrong crowd. Address your missive to the XORG<BR>developers. You do \
realize (maybe not) that laptops are out selling<BR>desktops. In a few more years \
none of the new developers will have<BR>touched a video card/adapter/chipset made by \
any one other than<BR>Nvidia, AMD, or \
Intel.<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 7<BR>Date: Sat, \
1 Dec 2007 22:27:53 -0500<BR>From: "Jacques B." <JJRBOUCHER@GMAIL.COM><BR>Subject: \
Re: Not now<BR>To: "For users of Fedora" \
<FEDORA-LIST@REDHAT.COM><BR>Message-ID:<BR><A937D2190712011927R1F330A1FG38059B6F39849E43@MAIL.GMAIL.COM><BR>Content-Type: \
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>On Dec 1, 2007 6:46 PM, Karl Larsen \
<K5DI@ZIANET.COM>wrote:<BR>> Someone last night got on my setup for this login and \
set it to send<BR>> no email to me. I turned on and there was no fedora list \
mail. Had to<BR>> work and just fixed the problem. Now things are good again. Sure \
hope<BR>> the person who did this will stop. It is no fun causing others \
problems.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI<BR>> Linux User<BR>> \
#450462 http://counter.li.org.<BR><BR>Not to mention illegal. Regardless what \
differences people may have<BR>with you or someone else on the list, that is not an \
acceptable way to<BR>deal with it. You may want to contact the list administrator to \
find<BR>out if they log IPs that connected to your account. If so the<BR>attacker's \
ISP can be identified which in turn their records can lead<BR>the proper authorities \
to the attacker. Even if you don't pursue a<BR>criminal complaint you can at minimum \
pursue a complaint with the ISP<BR>of that IP who in turn can take whatever \
disciplinary action they see<BR>appropriate.<BR><BR>And the suggestion by David to \
make sure you change your password (and<BR>secret question if applicable) is a very \
good one.<BR><BR>Jacques \
B.<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 8<BR>Date: Sat, 1 \
Dec 2007 19:52:46 -0800<BR>From: "Tod Merley" <TODBOT88@GMAIL.COM><BR>Subject: Re: \
Wireless problem on F8 -- can't access secured networks<BR>To: "For users of Fedora" \
connecting, so I am pretty confident that it's not a<BR>> hardware/compatibility \
issue. I've configured wpa_supplicant to run<BR>> via Service Configuration, which \
tells me that it is running. WPA<BR>> passphrases seem to get stored in the \
keyring OK.<BR>><BR>> In attempting to troubleshoot this, here's what I've \
discovered. When<BR>> booting, there is a fairly long delay, which causes the \
Details window<BR>> to pop up automatically. The delay is in starting \
wpa_supplicant, and<BR>> in fact, an error is noted:<BR>><BR>> Starting \
wpa_supplicant: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, ,<BR>> \
dbus_bus_get[ctrl_iface_dbus]: No such file or directory<BR>><BR>> Now, there \
is a file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, owned by<BR>> root and with rw \
permissions for owner. I haven't touched this, and I<BR>> assume it is correct. So \
I wonder if the dbus_bus_get[ctrl_iface_dbus]<BR>> is the thing that's \
complaining. Searching on that string yields [1]<BR>> some source \
code:<BR>><BR>> /* Get a reference to the system bus */<BR>> \
dbus_error_init(&error);<BR>> iface->con = dbus_bus_get(DBUS_BUS_SYSTEM, \
&error);<BR>> dbus_error_free(&error);<BR>> if (!iface->con) \
{<BR>> perror("dbus_bus_get[ctrl_iface_dbus]");<BR>> wpa_printf(MSG_ERROR, \
"Could not acquire the system bus.");<BR>> goto fail;<BR>> }<BR>><BR>> \
which looks like it might print that string followed by an error, but<BR>> then it \
should also be displaying (somewhere?) the "Could not acquire<BR>> the system \
bus." which I haven't found.<BR>><BR>> The other data point I have is that in \
the system log, when attempting<BR>> to connect, I see the following error \
msg:<BR>><BR>> Nov 18 20:56:29 think NetworkManager: <INFO>Device 'wlan0' \
DHCP<BR>> transaction took too long (>45s), stopping it.<BR>><BR>> Can \
anyone help me get my wireless up and running on this guy? Where<BR>> do I go \
next?<BR>><BR>> [1]<BR>> \
http://www.koders.com/c/fid085500CFE02FD84CFEB332AE71A50A1E37F81D1A.aspx?s=base64<BR>><BR>> \
--Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> fedora-list mailing list<BR>> \
fedora-list@redhat.com<BR>> To unsubscribe: \
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list<BR>><BR><BR>Hi Tom \
Stewart!<BR><BR>I am working on the same problem, so far I have not gotten arround \
to<BR>trying the results of the following research. For what it is \
worth:<BR><BR>Here:<BR><BR>http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=171361<BR><BR>I \
found:<BR><BR>Originally Posted by c0d3g33k<BR>Yes, you can use the old \
NetworkManager, and yes it does work better<BR>than the current P.O.S. ... err, ummm, \
work in progress.<BR><BR>You have to uninstall the current NetworkManager and \
dependencies,<BR>then find a Fedora mirror that still has the 7.90 test release \
and<BR>install the networkmanager components. You'll suffer from constant<BR>nagging \
from the Update utility, but your wireless networking will<BR>actually be \
functional.<BR><BR>NOTE!!!!: Download the necessary packages first if your \
network<BR>connection depends on NetworkManager.<BR><BR>I don't recall exactly what \
is removed, but a "yum erase<BR>NetworkManager" will take care of the dependencies \
for you.<BR><BR>>From the Fedora 7.90 mirror \
download:<BR><BR>NetworkManager<BR>knetworkmanager<BR>krb5-auth-dialog<BR>dhcdbd<BR>dhclient<BR><BR>If \
you are running Gnome, you probably want to grab<BR>NetworkManager-glib and \
NetworkManager-gnome too (I'm running KDE, so<BR>don't need them).<BR><BR>Install \
them using "yum localinstall <PACKAGES>" and enjoy functional<BR>networking \
again.<BR><BR><BR>BINGO! Thanks man. This worked like a charm. The only difference \
was,<BR>I used rpm instead of yum. I was having issues with yum wanting to<BR>remove \
pidgin as well. Just as a note, pidgin still works (just opened<BR>it and things \
logged in, nothing more). Here's what I ran:<BR><BR>sudo rpm --nodeps -e \
NetworkManager NetworkManager-glib<BR>NetworkManager-gnome krb5-auth-dialog \
nautilus-sendto<BR><BR>Hopefully, they'll get that fixed very soon and release an \
update. Not<BR>sure why this wasn't noticed in the release candidates?<BR><BR>Anyway, \
makes me feel better. Lol... I was thinking it was something much \
more.<BR><BR>Another Path:<BR><BR>Jacques B Nov 9 <BR>Reply<BR><BR>Got wireless to \
work with WPA-PSK. The solution was \
at<BR>http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showpost.php?p=857006&postcount=52<BR><BR>As \
root I edited /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf so that it<BR>contained the \
following:<BR><BR>ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant<BR>ctrl_interface_group=wheel<BR>network={<BR>ssid="your \
ssid"<BR>psk="your passphrase"<BR>key_mgmt=WPA-PSK<BR>proto=WPA<BR>}<BR><BR><BR>The \
first two lines were already there. I added the remaining lines<BR>as per the the \
instructions on the site above.<BR><BR>I then ran<BR># ifconfig wlan0 up<BR># \
wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd<BR>(the process didn't \
exit so it seemed, but after doing the next<BR>command successfully I was able to \
close this window anyhow).<BR><BR>Then in another terminal window as root I ran<BR># \
dhclient wlan0<BR><BR>I could then close both the windows and the wireless worked. I \
went<BR>into system-config-network-gui (either via command line or via \
System,<BR>Administrator, Network) and ensured that my wireless card was \
checked<BR>off so that it will start up on reboot (haven't rebooted yet but I \
am<BR>fairly confident it will work - if not I will repost to that effect \
-<BR>otherwise it worked).<BR><BR>Jacques B.<BR><BR>Good \
Hunting!<BR><BR>Tod<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: \
9<BR>Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:04:49 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: "charles f. zeitler" \
<CFZEITLER@YAHOO.COM><BR>Subject: links in konquer's 'edit bookmarks' and in pan's \
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