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Subject:    Re: [kmymoney4] [Bug 360938] Scheduled transactions entered in credit card (liability) have random d
From:       Louis-Philippe Allard <lp.allard.1 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2016-04-02 19:53:59
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  Quoting Jack Ostroff <ostroffjh@frontier.com>:

> On 4/2/2016 3:06 PM, via KDE Bugzilla wrote:
>> Another thing, theres a "Equity" account with a sub-account named "Opening
>> balances".  This was not there with KMM 4.6.2.. What is this account?  Some
>> (4/6) of the errors left are related to this account...  Knowing  
>> what it does
>> and its purpose will help me fix the remaining errors.
>
> Since KMM follows proper double entry bookkeeping practice, every  
> transaction needs to be balanced - money always comes from  
> somewhere. When you create a new account, and give it a starting  
> balance, that money has to come from somewhere.  That is what the  
> "Opening balances" account is for.  It is simply a creation to hold  
> the "other" end of every transaction that given an account its  
> starting balance.  I think it actually was present in earlier  
> versions of KMM, it was just better hidden.
>
> To get to this account, right click on the opening balance  
> transaction in any of your own accounts.  There should be an entry  
> in the context menu "Go to 'Opening balances'".  That will open the  
> "Opening balances" account in the ledger
>
> NOTE:  I just tried this, and it did work, with the one issue that  
> the name of the account at the top of the ledger stayed the name of  
> the previous account.  If I confirm this when I get home, I'll file  
> a bug for it.  However, it appears to only be a cosmetic issue.  It  
> really is the "Opening balances" account which is displayed.  You  
> can then edit the account to change its opening date.
> Once you fix this, feel free to post your remaining errors - perhaps  
> just to the mailing list, since this is no longer relevant to the bug.

Hello Jack,

OK for the "Opening balances" entry.  I will ignore it until it is  
"fixed".  The intent of the account is also what I had thought...  One  
thing I did notice using 4.7.2 for production now is that it is  
exceptionally slower than 4.6.2.. Not sure why, but each mouse click  
takes between 6 & 10 seconds... Entering an account takes 10 seconds+  
even if the account ledger containes less than 100 transactions.  Not  
sure if it is related to my previous crash?  Any way to see what takes  
so much effort?
  Louis-Philippe Allard
lp.allard.1@gmail.com
Sent from Horde Groupware - GNU/Linux

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<p>Quoting Jack Ostroff &lt;<a \
href="mailto:ostroffjh@frontier.com">ostroffjh@frontier.com</a>&gt;:</p> <blockquote \
style="border-left:2px solid blue;margin-left:2px;padding-left:12px;" type="cite"> \
<p>On 4/2/2016 3:06 PM, via KDE Bugzilla wrote:</p> <blockquote \
style="border-left:2px solid blue;margin-left:2px;padding-left:12px;" type="cite"> \
<p>Another thing, theres a "Equity" account with a sub-account named "Opening<br> \
balances".&nbsp; This was not there with KMM 4.6.2.. What is this account?&nbsp; \
Some<br> (4/6) of the errors left are related to this account...&nbsp; Knowing what \
it does<br> and its purpose will help me fix the remaining errors.</p>
</blockquote>
Since KMM follows proper double entry bookkeeping practice, every transaction needs \
to be balanced - money always comes from somewhere. When you create a new account, \
and give it a starting balance, that money has to come from somewhere.&nbsp; That is \
what the "Opening balances" account is for.&nbsp; It is simply a creation to hold the \
"other" end of every transaction that given an account its starting balance.&nbsp; I \
think it actually was present in earlier versions of KMM, it was just better \
hidden.<br> <br>
To get to this account, right click on the opening balance transaction in any of your \
own accounts.&nbsp; There should be an entry in the context menu "Go to 'Opening \
balances'".&nbsp; That will open the "Opening balances" account in the ledger<br> \
<br> NOTE:&nbsp; I just tried this, and it did work, with the one issue that the name \
of the account at the top of the ledger stayed the name of the previous \
account.&nbsp; If I confirm this when I get home, I'll file a bug for it.&nbsp; \
However, it appears to only be a cosmetic issue.&nbsp; It really is the "Opening \
balances" account which is displayed.&nbsp; You can then edit the account to change \
its opening date.<br> Once you fix this, feel free to post your remaining errors - \
perhaps just to the mailing list, since this is no longer relevant to the \
bug.</blockquote> <p><br>
Hello Jack,<br>
<br>
OK for the "Opening balances" entry.&nbsp; I will ignore it until it is \
"fixed".&nbsp; The intent of the account is also what I had thought...&nbsp; One \
thing I did notice using 4.7.2 for production now is that it is exceptionally slower \
than 4.6.2.. Not sure why, but each mouse click takes between 6 &amp; 10 seconds... \
Entering an account takes 10 seconds+ even if the account ledger containes less than \
100 transactions.&nbsp; Not sure if it is related to my previous crash?&nbsp; Any way \
to see what takes so much effort?<br></p> <div>Louis-Philippe Allard<br>
<a href="mailto:lp.allard.1@gmail.com">lp.allard.1@gmail.com</a><br>
Sent from Horde Groupware - GNU/Linux</div>
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