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List:       kde-user
Subject:    Re: CVS 01-29-01 problems-OT
From:       Deborah Hannen <rramsey () soli ! inav ! net>
Date:       2001-01-31 2:57:20
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At 07:21 PM 1/30/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Bob, I'm confused as to why it is you feel that your distribution that is
not 
>detecting a secondary drive. Please explain.
>

If this is too far off topic, let me know.  But I thought I should respond.
 It isn't having trouble detecting the secondary drive, it is trouble with
the secondary controller during the install only.  I have a nice standard
Athlon 850, VIA KX133.  I have installed Mandrake 7.0, 7.1, Redhat 7.0, and
Suse 7.0 on it with no problems.  All of these products correctly boot from
the cd-rom, recognize both of my hard drives on the first ide channel, 2 30
gig seagates, my generic dvd player (which is the cd-rom boot drive) and my
hp 9300i.  However, Mandrake 7.2, although the cd boots from the dvd drive,
halts during the ide detection.  If I boot from the boot floppy with the cd
based install image, it stops during the install at ide detection.  If I
boot from the boot floppy using the hard drive install image, it stops
during the ide detection.  A quick check on dejanews shows about 90 odd
posts with similar problems.  Here's an example of one:

http://x67.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=710784754&CONTEXT=980908945.1342
046211&hitnum=8

If the link doesn't work, do a search at
http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml for install ide detect in the forum
*mandrake*.  You'll see a large number of people with exactly the same
problem.  Some people were able to pass parameters to the install that told
it to skip hd autodetection.  Either I incorrectly typed what they said or
my system is different enough that the settings didn't work.  You can also
find similar threads at http://www.linuxnewbie.org.

The only way I could get Mandrake 7.2 to install on my system (keep in mind
that I have successfully installed 7.0 and 7.1 on this exact system) was to
either physically pull the secondary ide cable that the cd-r and dvd use or
to disable it in the cmos.  Thinking the image might have been corrupted, I
downloaded iso's and distributions from several sites.  No luck.

I have successfully installed this version on other machines.  I have
successfully installed other distributions and previous versions of
Mandrake on this computer. 

Interestingly enough, in every iso and distribution I tried, the image for
the install-from-hard-drive floppy was from the cooker.  Not, as would be
expected, from the "final" version of 7.2.  The cd-rom image boot floppy
was from the final version.  Take a look if you have Mandrake 7.2.  Make a
boot floppy from the hard drive install image file and boot.  If you don't
get the cooker version of the install, I'd love to get a copy of your
image.  No one I knew had a non-Cooker version of that boot floppy image.

So.  That's why I think that 7.2 was a rushed product:

	1)  Incompatibilites with hardware that worked on previous version.  I'm
currently using 7.1, and it works just fine.  I can burn cd's quite easily.

	2)  Cooker versions of the install in the final product.

I'm currently downloading Debian to try it.  I fully expect it to work.
I'm also going to try Connectiva and also expect it to work.

If anyone has a suggestion, I'll give it a try.

Bob

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