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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Sitting on the Chesterfield biting my Nails (Rex Dieter)
2. KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (Arthur Pemberton)
3. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (John5342)
4. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (Marcelo Magno T. Sales)
5. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (Rex Dieter)
6. kdebase-4.1.0 fc9 size (Neal Becker)
7. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (Arthur Pemberton)
8. Re: kdebase-4.1.0 fc9 size (rdieter1)
9. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (kwhiskerz)
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Sitting on the Chesterfield biting my Nails
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kwhiskerz wrote:
>
>
> I couldn't wait and plucked all of the packages for kde-4.1.1 from Koji.
> All went great with the installation, except one hitch: there was no
> package for kdepim.
>
> Now, I know that kdepim is not going to be in fedora 9, but isn't it
> supposed to be in kde-redhat for fedora 9? It isn't.
>
> I had to force the installation (all of those 'jots' files from
> kdeutils-4.1.1 conflicted with those from kdepim-4.1.0), but otherwise
> the system is running superbly.
>
> Nevertheless, I am wondering, won't we get kdepim-4.1.1 (via kde-redhat)?
Once updates start flowing again, and I have a few spare moments, most
defintely, yes.
-- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns
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1. I dislike Dolphin, irrelevant, but just wanted to say that
2. I used to like single click in Windows, but I'd like to turn it off
in KDE, I haven't found out how... instructions would be appreciated
3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there a
way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
4. Might it be appropriate to temporarily require 'gdb' till things
get more stable? Just had a kopete crash, had to install gdb to catch
the next one.
On a side note, what packages should I install for the debugging
symbols? or is that not possible?
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>1. I dislike Dolphin, irrelevant, but just wanted to say that
Try konqueror instead which was the default in kde 3.5 and is still there.
>2. I used to like single click in Windows, but I'd like to turn it off
>in KDE, I haven't found out how... instructions would be appreciated
I think what your talking about is in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse ->
Mouse -> Icons
>3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there a
>way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
No idea but i prefer the new way anyway :)
>4. Might it be appropriate to temporarily require 'gdb' till things
>get more stable? Just had a kopete crash, had to install gdb to catch
>the next one.
I have found things pretty stable anyway but thats a question for
maintainers.
>On a side note, what packages should I install for the debugging
>symbols? or is that not possible?
debuginfo-install <name-of-package-to-debug>
In case its not already installed that program is in the yum-utils package.
2008/9/10 Arthur Pemberton <pemboa@gmail.com>
> 1. I dislike Dolphin, irrelevant, but just wanted to say that
> 2. I used to like single click in Windows, but I'd like to turn it off
> in KDE, I haven't found out how... instructions would be appreciated
> 3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there a
> way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
> 4. Might it be appropriate to temporarily require 'gdb' till things
> get more stable? Just had a kopete crash, had to install gdb to catch
> the next one.
>
> On a side note, what packages should I install for the debugging
> symbols? or is that not possible?
>
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<div dir="ltr">>1. I dislike Dolphin, irrelevant, but just wanted to say \
that<br><br>Try konqueror instead which was the default in kde 3.5 and is still \
there.<br><br> >2. I used to like single click in Windows, but I'd like to \
turn it off<br> >in KDE, I haven't found out how... instructions would be \
appreciated<br><br>I think what your talking about is in System Settings -> \
Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Icons<br><br> >3. I really loved inline \
filename changing in Konqueror... is there a<br> >way to get that back? F2 brings \
up a dialog now<br><br>No idea but i prefer the new way anyway :)<br><br> >4. \
Might it be appropriate to temporarily require 'gdb' till things<br>>get \
more stable? Just had a kopete crash, had to install gdb to catch<br> >the next \
one.<br><br>I have found things pretty stable anyway but thats a question for \
maintainers.<br> <br>
>On a side note, what packages should I install for the debugging<br>
>symbols? or is that not possible?<br><br>debuginfo-install \
<name-of-package-to-debug><br><br>In case its not already installed that \
program is in the yum-utils package.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/9/10 \
Arthur Pemberton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pemboa@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">pemboa@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">1. I dislike Dolphin, irrelevant, but \
just wanted to say that<br> 2. I used to like single click in Windows, but I'd \
like to turn it off<br> in KDE, I haven't found out how... instructions would be \
appreciated<br> 3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there \
a<br> way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now<br>
4. Might it be appropriate to temporarily require 'gdb' till things<br>
get more stable? Just had a kopete crash, had to install gdb to catch<br>
the next one.<br>
<br>
On a side note, what packages should I install for the debugging<br>
symbols? or is that not possible?<br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns
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> >3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there
> > a way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
In Dolphin, go to Configurations -> Configure Dolphin -> General
There's an option in this tab to activate inline renaming. I like it
much more than the current default too.
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
>
>>> 3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there
>>> a way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
>
> In Dolphin, go to Configurations -> Configure Dolphin -> General
> There's an option in this tab to activate inline renaming. I like it
> much more than the current default too.
Can those interested in this make the case for making this change the
default? Be as verbose as possible. :) So...
1. we could consider changing the default in fedora
and
2. work to push this upstream too
-- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] kdebase-4.1.0 fc9 size
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Why do these 'size' say different things? Is this because I have the version
from kde-redhat-unstable, instead of from updates-newkey?
sudo yum --enablerepo=updates-testing-newkey info kdebase
Installed Packages
Name : kdebase
Arch : x86_64
Epoch : 6
Version : 4.1.0
Release : 1.fc9.1
Size : 13 M
Repo : installed
Summary : K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
URL : http://www.kde.org/
License : GPLv2
Description: Core runtime requirements and applications for the K Desktop
Environment 4.
Available Packages
Name : kdebase
Arch : x86_64
Epoch : 6
Version : 4.1.0
Release : 1.fc9.1
Size : 5.7 M
Repo : updates-newkey
Summary : K Desktop Environment 4 - Core Files
URL : http://www.kde.org/
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Description: Core runtime requirements and applications for the K Desktop
Environment 4.
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter1@math.unl.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
>
>>
>>>> 3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there
>>>> a way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
>>
>> In Dolphin, go to Configurations -> Configure Dolphin -> General
>> There's an option in this tab to activate inline renaming. I like it
>> much more than the current default too.
>
> Can those interested in this make the case for making this change the
> default? Be as verbose as possible. :) So...
> 1. we could consider changing the default in fedora
> and
> 2. work to push this upstream too
Well I can try to think something up, but specifically in Konqueror,
which is what I use, was there a case to change?
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kdebase-4.1.0 fc9 size
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:18:18 -0400, Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Why do these 'size' say different things? Is this because I have the
> version
> from kde-redhat-unstable, instead of from updates-newkey?
installed size = uncompressed
available size = compressed rpm size
Confusing yes, imo, yum should be clearer here not to report apples vs.
oranges here.
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On September 10, 2008 11:35:12 Rex Dieter wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> >>> 3. I really loved inline filename changing in Konqueror... is there
> >>> a way to get that back? F2 brings up a dialog now
> >
> > In Dolphin, go to Configurations -> Configure Dolphin -> General
> > There's an option in this tab to activate inline renaming. I like it
> > much more than the current default too.
>
> Can those interested in this make the case for making this change the
> default? Be as verbose as possible. :) So...
Inline renaming is my preference. In 4.0, it didn't work properly, so I turned
it off. Just tested in 4.1.1 and it appears to permit cutting and pasting
inline to correct typos, so I would prefer it turned back on by default.
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