Package : kdebase Version : 1.91 XMame.x11 (v0.37b4.1) doesn't work with this new KDE. It works just fine with v1.1.1. At first I though it was because aRts, so I disabled it but it didn't help. Xmame got stuck after displaying ' Using a Visual with a depth of 16bpp.' (it should then display 'MIT-SHM Extension Available. trying to use... Success.') It turns out that only after killing Kdesktop, xmame works fine. I've used KDE Snapshot Binaries of 20000708, using the RPM packages, installed to /opt/kde2. Using RH6.0, glibc 2.1. Kernel 2.2.15. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com