I was silly enough to think I, a real newbie, could just get the new 1.1.1. KDE and drop it into my Mandrake + 2.2. kernel + tt fonts setup (someone helped me with that). I have qt1.42 and the five KDE 1.1.1 rpms. I started the install from /usr/src/redhar/RPMS/i386/ It said it would install in /opt/kde It installed kdesupport but then gives me failed dependencies: kdelibs-rh5x is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libjscript.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libkdecore.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libkdeiu.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libkfile.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libkfm.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libkhtmlw.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libkimgio.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x libmediatool.so.2 is needed by kdebase-1.1.1-1rh5x However it then stated that these are harmless but indicated that /etc/ld.so.conf has invalid entries. I then said I wanted to use kdm but the installation says that /opt/kde/bin/kdm does not appear to exist so it is exiting with the question "is the correct kdebase installed"? I should know! But then I can add some users. If I then startx, the screen flashes and then dumps me back in a text screen with several Mach64 lines about color weight, pixmap cache and font cache before stating that local host has been added to access control list and then the error: /root/.Xclients:/opt/kde/bin/startkde: no such file or directory. waiting for X server to shut down. How could I be so silly as to think this would work without hassles that mean nothing to a non-nerd like me? :-( Rgds Martin