https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348123 --- Comment #12 from John Stanley --- I suppose the systemd/sd-pam is a systemd issue, so forget about that one. So, right now I just have kuiserver5 processes remaining after logout and never killed. If I repeatedly login and logout, they are never killed so, eg, if I login and logout 4 times, on the 4'th logout I have 4 copies of kuiserver5 running for that user. Aside from kactivitymanagerd, nothing is crashing on logouts, and (w/kactivitymanagerd effectively disabled, I still see the problem). At this point, given this issue, plus broken kactivitymanagerd, plus broken session management, plus lack of pure-kf5 apps, I 'm leaning towards moving back to Qt4/kde4, but I'd rather avoid this as KF5 does look nice and window effects are working nicely. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.