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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [dolphin] [Bug 336910] Usability-wishlist
From:       Frank Reininghaus <frank78ac () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2014-06-30 20:06:46
Message-ID: bug-336910-17878-fqPtc86zYA () http ! bugs ! kde ! org/
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Frank Reininghaus <frank78ac@googlemail.com> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

--- Comment #1 from Frank Reininghaus <frank78ac@googlemail.com> ---
First of all, thanks for taking the time to file this report.

Please note:

(a) Handling the endless stream of incoming bug reports and feature request is
already *extremely* challenging for our small team of volunteers. It doesn't
really get any easier if multiple unrelated issues are reported in one single
report. Please don't do that. Thanks.

(b) bugs.kde.org is *completely* unsuitable for discussing user ideas. Few
people read incoming reports. In particular, users who do not approve of your
ideas to change the behavior are very unlikely to read this report and comment
here. A much better place to discuss ideas is the KDE Brainstorm section of the
KDE forums:

http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=83

If an idea that is discussed there is very popular, and no user finds any
obvious flaws, feel free to tell us about it, either here or on the mailing
list.

Moreover, I don't really want to question your abilities to judge what changes
might improve the usability, but maybe a discussion on the usability mailing
list is the best way to find out about that (preferably, after the idea has
been discussed in the Brainstorm forum).

Most of what you suggest here has already been discussed. I'll add some links
that I still remember below. Please try at least a quick search of the existing
reports before filing new reports in the future. This really makes our work
easier :-)

(In reply to comment #0)
> Allow for side-panels to be also arranged side by side.
> - For instance: "Places" left and immediately at its right side "Folders".
> This would in some cases result in a better overview and even faster
> navigation.

It is unclear to me why this improves usability so much that the additional
complexity in the user interface and the code (AFAIK, Qt does not support this
way to arrange dock widgets at all, so you would have to request that feature
from Qt itself) is justified. Feel free to discuss it in the forum, but note
that (if I'm not mistaken) there is nothing we can do about it unless it's
implemented in Qt.

> Allow for separators (or some other kind of structure) in "Places".
> - This would improve orientation.

Then please explain exactly what kind of workflow you have in mind for adding
these separator (How should it work? What should the user do to add a
separator?) when you suggest this in the forum.

> When closing a split view, the in-active window should close, not the
> active. 
> - It is almost always the active window that one focuses on and for which on
> wants more space.

Has been discussed extensively already. See, e.g., bug 312834.

> Like the search-bar the filter-bar should be placed at the top, not at the
> bottom of the window.
> - In general, search-/filter-bars at the bottom of a window don't seem to be
> ergonomically sensible solutions.

See the discussion in

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=121393

> A browsing-history in the address-bar would be helpful
> - Sometimes this would be a faster way to go back to a certain address -
> compared to hitting the "Back"-button many times.

Already requested, see bug 171037.

> In the "Details"-view I would prefer to (optionally) see the size of folders
> instead of the number of elements.
> - This would better help to see where cleanup is profitable.

I can't find the link now, but this has been discussed as well. The feature may
seem nice at first sight, but please note that this would require that your
entire home directory, including all subfolders, is scanned file by file every
time you open Dolphin. This would require an amount of disk activity that is
not acceptable for the vast majority of users.

> An option to set the view-mode for all (sub-) windows simultaneously to
> "Compact" etc. would be nice.

Please describe situations in which this would be useful, and how you would
like to see this implemented in the user interface when you start a forum
discussion about this issue.

> In addition to the vertical split-view a horizontal split-view should be
> offered as well.

Already discussed: bug 168592. The bottom line is: if horizontal splitting is
important for you, there is a file manager which uses Dolphin's code and which
has this feature: Konqueror :-)

I'm closing this report now - I hope that you can understand that. Thanks.

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