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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Phonon] [Bug 268185] Crash late in startup
From:       Colin Guthrie <colin () mageia ! org>
Date:       2013-01-27 13:45:44
Message-ID: bug-268185-17878-pVXUhwyagr () http ! bugs ! kde ! org/
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268185

Colin Guthrie <colin@mageia.org> changed:

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--- Comment #41 from Colin Guthrie <colin@mageia.org> ---
While I'm not 100% sure if it is causing the problem, I know Ubuntu (where at
least a few of the traces here are generated on) uses a kind of dynamic
adjustment of the alsa config when PA is running.

I'd recommend disabling this automatic stuff in the alsa config and defaulting
to a static PulseAudio config (e.g.
http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-plugins.git;a=blob;f=pulse/99-pulseaudio-default.conf.example;h=4f5885806898a76f5a5c9b3ec76b804fe54e2480;hb=HEAD)
 and seeing if you can reproduce this issue.

If that's the case then I would probably recommend that a bug be opened against
Ubuntu and propose to remove this automatic config stuff (I've always thought
this was a bad approach as it papers over sound bugs by giving the user a
half-working system when an essential component fails, masking where the real
error is - it's better to fail and fail hard (with good error messages) when
this component fails, not fallback to some totally alternative way of working.

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