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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 143995] add tabs to dolphin
From:       Jorden Mauro <photonman007 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-04-11 21:37:20
Message-ID: 20080411213720.20716.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From photonman007 gmail com  2008-04-11 23:37 -------
Throughout Dolpin's development, the main reason for no tabs has been different spins \
on "they're too complicated." Maybe if you had more than one reason for not doing it \
then people would give you more reasons for doing it. Do you expect users not to be \
upset when all the devs did until fairly recently was flat-out reject a good idea?

The only reason I mentioned Konqueror's problems is because people who want tabs in \
Dolphin are told to use Konqueror, when Konqueror in KDE4 is not a viable \
alternative. If Konqueror has almost no one working on it, how are we supposed to get \
it fixed? If the functionality can't be gotten somewhere, what are people supposed to \
do, stop using KDE or try to kludge in something from kde-apps that will never work \
right? I like KDE, but the tone lately has been "we want simplicity." That's fine, \
but don't be like Gnome and make it impossible to not to go beyond that simplicity.

Isn't the point of working on KDE to help give people a great desktop experience? Why \
shun people who ask for something because it doesn't fit your agenda. Instead of \
saying "No, that's too complicated," for months, why couldn't you have said from the \
beginning, "yes, not now, but in a later release?" 

I'm sorry that I've come off as angry here, but the tone of the developers has been \
pretty condescending so far. If the project is short on people, then it should have \
taken longer to do a release. Users would have waited if it paid off in the end. \
You're not expected to implement a feature in a few days, but you should wait until \
something's ready to release it.

I'm glad you're open to adding tabs, but if people want other features (like preview \
on hover for music, preview videos in the side panel, etc.), is it going to be this \
hard to get them every time?

As a closing thought, I'm sorry I ranted on you, but I'm afraid KDE will go down a \
bad path if the developers are less open to adding things if they will only benefit a \
minority. I'm sure there's a way to add functionality without increasing complexity \
(like stuffing it in an "advanced" menu). I guess my overall wish is that if \
Konqueror file management is no longer a priority, can we please have a bit of a \
shift in Dolphin's goals to allow it to be even better than 3.x Konqui at file \
management? I think everyone could live with that, even if it's set as a goal for 4.5 \
or beyond.


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