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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 160162] New window/tab should ask for profile if there are more
From:       Mike <mike () blueroot ! co ! uk>
Date:       2008-04-11 11:45:54
Message-ID: 20080411114554.19125.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From mike blueroot co uk  2008-04-11 13:45 -------
> That isn't right.  Browsers keep site-specific state information in cookies, which \
> are not kept in bookmarks.  Some websites may encode state information in URLs but \
> I would not expect bookmarking my banking site to remember my authentication state \
> or expect bookmarking a product page in a shop to remember the contents of my \
> shopping basket.

What I meant was that the state information is TIED to the location, ie.  one \
location == one state.  You cannot view a website with one set of cookies and then \
switch to another set of cookies (except with some advanced webmaster tools).  Also \
when you change location the state (ie. the set of cookies associated with that \
domain) changes as well.

In konsole you want a state to persist across different locations and a single \
location to have more than one state.  If I cd to another directory the state will \
not change, but on the web each location only has access to a particular set of \
cookies (state).

> In the web, the current state is often held partly by the browser and partly by the \
> web site.  Quite often the browser stores only a unique ID and everything else is \
> recorded by the web site in a database somewhere.

The state may be actually stored in cookies, but it is not the browser that controls \
that state, the location (web site) is in control of setting and deleting cookies, \
even server side state is controlled by cookies.  In konsole there is no sentient \
website at a location, it is normally a dumb directory which cannot tell you to make \
the konsole background yellow here.  Konsole is 100% in charge of the state.

> In the terminal, the current state is mostly held by a process outside of Konsole \
> which may well be running on another computer.  The accessible information is \
> limited to a local processes' /proc/pid/status file.  So the current bookmarks \
> implementation represents the best of what I can do within the confines of Konsole.

I am aware that there are probably a lot of limitations, by state I mean konsole \
state like color, environmental variables set, starting program etc.

If there are limitations which mean that half of the functionality does not work then \
it is just confusing to have that functionality.  At the moment the only way to test \
if something actually works is to try it.

Switching profiles does not work properly, and neither do bookmarks, so I really \
think something is needed here.


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