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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 86195] wish: kscreensaver should "play nicely" with xscreensaver
From:       Brice Hunt <shoalcreek5 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2006-10-01 3:45:28
Message-ID: 20061001034528.5057.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From shoalcreek5 gmail com  2006-10-01 05:45 -------
<soapbox>
I have an idea. Since XScreensaver has more screensavers than KScreensaver AND \
because most KScreensaver hacks are implemented in XScreensaver AND because \
XScreensaver is MUCH MORE STABLE AND CONFIGURABLE IN A SIMPLE WAY, just get rid of \
the POS wrapper that is called KScreensaver and work with the guys that build \
XScreensaver to integrate it into KDE instead of forcing me to rip apart my system \
and search all the dark corners of the web to get rid of the POS Kscreensaver that \
was FOISTED upon me by the KDE team.

I'm sorry, but I've been using KDE from version 3.0 to my current version of 3.5.4. \
I've seen many bugs get fixed and much improvement in the overall system; however, \
the screensaver has had the same bugs and lousy performance continuously. Every time \
you "patch" a bug, the "patch" fails to fix the bug. You've yet to enhance the \
screensaver to a point that it is actually as good as the Xscreensaver.

Why do I say this? For these reasons:
1.  OpenGL screensavers in Kscreensaver are CONSTANTLY BROKEN AND WORK POORLY; \
meanwhile, I can run THE SAME SCREENSAVERS from XScreensaver (even inside KDE) \
WITHOUT A HITCH. 2.  There is MUCH BETTER CONTROL over individual screensaver options \
by using XScreensaver (including full documentation for advanced features). 3.  \
Options in XScreensaver use LESS AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE and have MORE COMPLETE \
DOCUMENTATION READILY AVAILABLE for a full explanation of each screensaver. 4.  I can \
turn off INDIVIDUAL screensavers that I don't care for when I use Xscreensaver and \
have the rest run randomly. No such luck with Kscreensaver. If I want them to run \
randomly, the only ones I can turn off are the ones that are included in the groups \
that either grab a screenshot or use OpenGL. 5.  The Gnome team dropped their own \
screensaver wrapper and started working with the people that build the XScreensaver \
to integrate it into Gnome, and most of the bugs that they had with screensavers \
disappeared very quickly. If the Gnome team can do it, so can the KDE team! \
</soapbox>

There's my rant. Now fix it.


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