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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 71220] file|properties|permissions tab advanced should be
From:       Nathaniel Taylor <hvdc () onetel ! net ! uk>
Date:       2003-12-31 21:35:24
Message-ID: 20031231213524.9086.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From hvdc@onetel.net.uk  2003-12-31 22:35 -------
I agree absolutely that:

	the original method, as used in Nautilus too, of showing the full 4 octal digits in a \
convenient grid form is by far the most simple, useable and elegant format;  please do revert!

	"Advanced" is used in various desktop environments, occaisionally being true (advanced stuff) \
and useful (hides large amounts of in-the-way options), but often being a nuisance and a \
misnomer

Let us consider the two broad categories of user: moderately familiar unix user and fresher \
from other desktop environment.    To the unix user, the current (kde3.2-beta2) system is \
annoying and time-wasting. Such a user has a clear idea of what permissions are wanted and can \
click them into a grid quickly.  Anything involving special bits, or files/directories with \
execture but not read permission, etc. has to be done in "Advanced"  To the novice, the new \
method may be a little easier initially, but there are two reasons why this doesn't matter!   \
i) A "Help" tab and use of full words (owner, group, read, etc) would allow this user to use \
the grid and eventually to have the same speed as the experienced users, with full control of \
all permissions ii) KDE users who cannot cope with simple things like logical permissions are \
very unlikely to use other than a packaged kde supplied with some OS distro.  Distributors \
aiming at such users can make "simplifying" changes themselves if needed, and there should not \
be a need for default KDE to be dumbed down to the point of slowing and annoying the many \
experienced users who are likely to compile it or download rpms.


As brief points in favour of the grid interface over drop-down menus, 
a) crossed boxes form a pattern whose meaning will soon be recognisable to a user at a glance, \
rather than the wordy menus that need more attention b) all options are immediately there; \
special bits, x-only, user can't write, others can (!), etc. c) corresponds to the underlying \
OS in a direct, easily understood form


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