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Subject:    [Zaurus-chatter] Re: [Opie] [ANNOUNCE] OpenZaurus 2.9.5.5 (beta stage) is now available!
From:       Chris Larson <kergoth () digitalnemesis ! net>
Date:       2002-08-25 5:37:52
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Ah! Well that puts it around the right time, the last Opie build in the 
OpenZaurus primary feed and that which is on the 2.9.5.5 rootfs is as of 
20020806 ...

Thanks for the information.

On Sunday 25 August 2002 00:14, Werner Schulte wrote:
> This was a problem in opie a few weeks ago and is fixed now.
> Im not sure about how to build an OZ image, on my ipaq it works
> now (familiar 0.5.3 and opie from CVS last weekend).
>
> By the way, you dont have to reboot, its enough to restart opie either
> using the shutdown menu or to enter "/etc/init.d/opie stop",
> "/etc/init.d/opie start" at your console.
>
> Werner
>
> At Samstag, 24. August 2002 17:03 Joe Chott wrote:
> > Ok, I am new to the Z, and new to OZ, so I may have something
> > configured wrong, but here is what I am noticing:
> >
> > I reboot my Z, and then load system info.
> >
> > I see 0% system cpu usage and 0% application cpu usage.
> >
> > Then I suspend, wait 1 minute, resume.
> >
> > Now I see things in transition, and when it stabilizes, I end up
> > seeing 20% system cpu usage, and 80% application cpu usage.
> >
> > Repeating another suspend/wait 1 minute/resume cycle/wait for
> > cpu usage to stabilize, and it ends up the same as just previous
> > - 20% system cpu usage, 80% application cpu usage.
> >
> > If I now reboot, and then run system info, the process repeats
> > yet again.
> >
> > I have seen many email postings and irc reports from people
> > saying that their application cpu usage ends up being 80% in OZ
> > and to restore it to "normal", they have to reboot, so at least
> > in that, I am just like everyone else.
> >
> > What I would like to know is, is there anything we can do about
> > this?
> >
> > -Joe Chott
> >
> > --- Chris Larson <kergoth@digitalnemesis.net> wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I'm hereby announcing the availability of the most recent in a
> > > series of
> > > beta OpenZaurus releases.
> > >
> > > OpenZaurus 2.9.5.5(aka oz3 b10.5.5)
> > > Release Notes:
> > >
> > > Overview:
> > >
> > > The OpenZaurus project was created as an alternative
> > > distribution for
> > > The Sharp Zaurus SL-5000D and SL-5500 Personal Mobile Tools.
> > > This
> > > distribution started off as an altered Sharp rom, and
> > > eventually
> > > progressed in versions past 2.5 to a distribution of its own,
> > > built from
> > > the ground up.  Its startup scripts and similar bits are
> > > debian-based.
> > >
> > > Changes:
> > >
> > > The *proper* security fix was applied, but the sync software
> > > has yet to
> > > catch up, so that security fix
> > > has been backed out to give sync functionality again.
> > > Numerous minor fixes to close out about half of the open bug
> > > reports against
> > > OpenZaurus,
> > > Latest Opie build as of 2002/08/08 from CVS HEAD.
> > >
> > > Caveats:
> > > -none to my knowledge-
> > >
> > > Applicable links:
> > > http://openzaurus.sf.net/
> > > http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/3.0/ - Official OpenZaurus
> > > feed.
> > > http://opie.handhelds.org/
> > > http://opie.info/
> > > http://opie.info/bugs - opie bug tracker
> > > http://opie.us/
> > >
> > > Frequently Asked Questions:
> > >
> > > Q) What exactly does OpenZaurus consist of, and how does it
> > > compare
> > >      to the Sharp ROM?
> > >
> > > A) Key points:
> > >
> > > Kernel:
> > >
> > > Official 2.4.6-rmk1-np2 kernel sources + the Lineo Embedix
> > > patch
> > > which is also used in the sharp rom.
> > >
> > > The following are patches applied to the OpenZaurus kernel
> > > which are
> > > not applied to the Sharp kernel:
> > >   - Latest HostAP Prism2 wireless drivers.
> > >   - Boot logo change.
> > >   - Latest socket/symbol spectrum drivers and orinoco drivers.
> > >   - Compile fix in af_irda to build irda as modules.
> > >
> > > The OpenZaurus kernel also features an altered configuration..
> > > including
> > > wireless extensions support.
> > >
> > > Filesystem:
> > >
> > > The entire filesystem is structured differently than the Sharp
> > > ROM.
> > > OpenZaurus is a new distribution built from the ground up,
> > > based on
> > > debian.  There is no symlink structure, as flash is writable,
> > > which
> > > makes the filesystem much cleaner and, imho, more sane.
> > >
> > > OpenZaurus also includes OpenSSH (Client and Server) by
> > > default, and
> > > uses the C version of ipkg (the package manager), rather than
> > > the
> > > shell version.  It also includes new versions of numerous
> > > packages.
> > >
> > > Graphical User Interface:
> > >
> > > OpenZaurus uses the Opie graphical environment.  Opie is a
> > > fork
> > > of the Qtopia codebase, and involves the efforts of numerous
> > > programmers in the community.
> > >
> > > Applicable links:
> > > http://opie.handhelds.org
> > > http://opie.info/
> > > http://opie.us/
> > >
> > > Q) Does OpenZaurus work with Qtopia Desktop and Intellisync
> > > for syncing?
> > >
> > > A) Yes, you can sync with OpenZaurus.
> > >
> > >      -First, run the Security app in Opie, make sure the ip
> > > and mask is
> > >           appropriate for the machine you will be syncing
> > > with. Hit OK.
> > >
> > >      -Now, on the desktop, you will want to go into the
> > > network
> > >           configuration for the Local Area Connection for the
> > > Zaurus.
> > >           Change it from "Obtain an IP Automatically" to
> > > "Manually enter
> > >           an ip".  Enter the appropriate ip/mask, by default
> > > 192.168.129.1
> > >           for the ip, and 255.255.255.0 for the mask.
> > >
> > >      -If Qtopia Desktop says the version doesnt match the
> > > Zaurus, then:
> > >           - Obtain the latest Qtopia Desktop installer from
> > >     http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/download/binary/QD_update.zip
> > >   - Obtain the even more recent binaries from
> > >     ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/pub/qtopia/qtopiadesktop.exe
> > >   - Extract qtopiadesktop.exe.
> > >   - Copy ALL extracted files and riectories into your existing
> > >     Qtopia Desktop folder, usually at
> > >     c:\program files\sharp\qtopia dsektop\, overwriting any
> > >     duplicates.
> > >
> > > Q) Do SD (Secure Digital) cards work in OpenZaurus?
> > >
> > > A) Yes, they do.  We use the binary sd/mmc module from the
> > > Sharp ROMS.
> > >      OpenZaurus 2.9.5.x includes the sd module from 2.38 of
> > > the Sharp ROM,
> > >      which, thanks to Sharp, fixes the Sandisk SD problem.
> > >
> > > Q) What are all these zImage's for? -aka- How does OpenZaurus
> > > make use
> > >      of the built in RAM and Flash in the Zaurus?
> > >
> > > A) The Zaurus has 16mb of flash rom, and 64 or 32mb of RAM.
> > > The way
> > >    this is distributed is as follows.  On the Sharp ROM, the
> > > 16mb of
> > >    flash is read only, and any packages installed are
> > > installed to the
> > >    ramdisk (32mb on 5500, and 6mb on 5000).  On OpenZaurus,
> > > however,
> > >    flash is writable, so you can install apps there (as a
> > > matter of fact
> > >    the default install destination is flash).
> > >
> > >    The numerous zImages give you choices.  They allow you to
> > > select
> > >      how much RAM you have, and how much you want allocated to
> > > the ramdisk
> > >      for storage and installing apps.  To explain:
> > >
> > >      File naming: zImage_X[-Y]
> > >
> > >      X = Amount of Actual RAM available
> > >      Y = Amount of RAM used for storage and installing
> > > applications
> > >          (ramdisk).
> > >
> > >      If X+Y = 64, that kernel is 5500 only.
> > >      If X+Y = 32, that kernel is 5000 only.
> > >
> > >      The '32' and '64' kernels give the kernel all of your
> > > ram..
> > >      There is no memory used for storage in those kernels.
> > >
> > > Q) How do I make OpenZaurus do what Paul's sd-on-home rom
> > > does?
> > >
> > > A) First, as Paul's rom disables the ramdisk completely to
> > > allow you
> > >      full use of your ram, you need to use either the
> > > zImage-32 (5000d)
> > >      or zImage-64 (5500) kernel.  Second, in the package
> > > manager, you
> > >      will want to go into the Setup screen, and change the
> > > default
> > >      install destination to "sd", and make sure the "link
> > > packages to root"
> > >      box is checked.
> > >
> > > Q) Is a CF (CompactFlash) card required to switch from Sharp
> > > ROM to OZ?
> > >
> > > A) At the moment, yes. Sharp has both the update app for the
> > > zaurus, and
> > >      the graphical Windows app to update.  However, neither
> > > one will
> > >      support flashing OpenZaurus, as they check a checksum on
> > > the rom.
> > >
> > > Q) Help! I flashed OpenZaurus and its stuck with the logo and
> > > a flashing
> > >    cursor, what do I do?
> > >
> > > A) This generally indicates that the zImage flashed, but the
> > > initrd.bin
> > >      did not.  Ensure that you renamed it to initrd.bin.  Try
> > > flashing
> > >      the unit again.  If it still does not succeed, try
> > > formatting
> > >      the CF (CompactFlash) card, and try again.
> > >
> > > Q) Why does it take so long to boot the first time? aka Its
> > > stuck at
> > >    "Reconfiguring packages installed to root...."
> > >
> > > A) OpenZaurus is configuring all the packages to ensure they
> > > will work
> > >      with your system.  Among other things, it generates the
> > > necessary
> > >      keys for OpenSSH.
> > >
> > > Q) Why does sysinfo only show 2 megs free of internal storage?
> > >
> > > A) The top entry in sysinfo refers to your flash, the second
> > > entry the
> > >      ramdisk.  On the Sharp ROM, it installs to the ramdisk by
> > > default,
> > >      as flash is not writable. By default in OZ you have the
> > > entire
> > >      ramdisk free (size dependant on which kernel you
> > > selected), and
> > >      the 2-3 megs of free flash.
> > >
> > > Q) Why does OpenZaurus come with less apps by default than the
> > > Sharp ROM?
> > >
> > > A) To give the users more options.. there are numerous apps
> > > that many users
> > >      will not utilize.  However, do not be mislead, Opie
> > > includes more apps
> > >      than Qtopia by default, many of which are superior.
> > > Please see the
> > >      OpenZaurus package feed for the available Opie and OZ
> > > applications.
> > >      Also remember that apps made by third parties should work
> > > under OZ
> > >      as well as they did under the Sharp ROM.
> > >
> > >    NOTE: As of this writing, there are over 300 applications
> > > that run
> > >    equally well on the Sharp and OpenZaurus ROMs.
> > >
> > > Q) Whom do I contact for support on OpenZaurus?
> > >
> > > A) If the issues are related to bugs or feature requests in
> > > Opie, the
> > >      graphical environment, please email the Opie mailing list
> > > at
> > >      opie@handhelds.org for assistance, or join #opie on the
> > > OpenProjects
> > >      IRC network (irc.openprojects.net).
> > >
> > >    If the issues are related to OpenZaurus in general..
> > > installation,
> > >      bugs in the filesystem, packaging, feed, et cetera,
> > > please
> > >      email me directly at kergoth@sourceforge.net, or issue
> > > bug reports,
> > >      feature requests, or support requests on
> > > http://sf.net/projects/openzaurus/.
> > >      Also, myself and others who use OpenZaurus are available
> > > in the #zaurus
> > >      channel on IRC at the OpenProjects network.
> > >
> > > Q) What next?  What are your plans for OpenZaurus?
> > >
> > > A) The following is an outline of my plans for OpenZaurus atm:
> > >
> > >      - Port Zaurus support from 2.4.6 kernel to 2.5.latest
> > > kernel.
> > >      - Push Zaurus support into the official ARM linux kernel
> > > tree.
> > >      - Backport Zaurus support to 2.4.19.
> > >      - Make Opie run as a nonroot user, to help address the
> > > security issues.
> > >      - Add a /proc interface to allow apps to check whether
> > > they are
> > >        running under OpenZaurus or not.
> > >
> > >      Note: new kernels will give us better power management..
> > > the power
> > >      status check functions will likely support more than just
> > > 4 levels.
> > >      I'm working on the buzzer driver to see if we can use a
> > > standard
> > >      sound device to interface with the Zaurus' buzzer.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chris Larson, aka kergoth
> > > kergoth at digitalnemesis dot net
> > >
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