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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Hans Chen <hanswchen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From what I understand xmonad creates virtual root windows on each screen
>> to detect if focus should
>
>
> xmonad neither uses nor cares about virtual root windows; they're the sort
> of thing desktop managers use.  Where did you get this idea?
>

http://code.google.com/p/xmonad/issues/detail?id=40

Note that it was fixed in xmonad 0.9. I haven't looked at the actual source
though, I just assumed that the solution was similar to the one described
by the Issue.

Instead it is rather likely that xmonad is lazy about the notion of screen
> focus; in many ways, a workspace with no windows "doesn't exist" even if
> it's on a screen, because in practice a workspace is defined by its
> windows. In particular, much of the concept of "workspace" is created by
> the layoutHook, which usually doesn't do anything if there are no windows.
>

Well, as mentioned, it works fine without plasma-desktop running. It's no
biggie since I mostly use the keyboard, but it would be nice to fix for the
few occasions when I use the mouse.

Hans

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Brandon All=
bery <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">allbery.b@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Hans Ch=
en <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hanswchen@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">hanswchen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">

<div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
From what I understand xmonad creates virtual root windows on each screen t=
o detect if focus should </blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>xmonad neit=
her uses nor cares about virtual root windows; they&#39;re the sort of thin=
g desktop managers use. =A0Where did you get this idea?</div>

</div></div></blockquote><div><br><a href=3D"http://code.google.com/p/xmona=
d/issues/detail?id=3D40">http://code.google.com/p/xmonad/issues/detail?id=
=3D40</a><br><br>Note that it was fixed in xmonad 0.9. I haven&#39;t looked=
 at the actual source though, I just assumed that the solution was similar =
to the one described by the Issue.<br>

<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">
<div>Instead it is rather likely that xmonad is lazy about the notion of sc=
reen focus; in many ways, a workspace with no windows &quot;doesn&#39;t exi=
st&quot; even if it&#39;s on a screen, because in practice a workspace is d=
efined by its windows. In particular, much of the concept of &quot;workspac=
e&quot; is created by the layoutHook, which usually doesn&#39;t do anything=
 if there are no windows.</div>

</div></div></blockquote><div><br>Well, as mentioned, it works fine without=
 plasma-desktop running. It&#39;s no biggie since I mostly use the keyboard=
, but it would be nice to fix for the few occasions when I use the mouse.<b=
r>

<br>Hans<br></div></div>

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