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Subject:    RE: [VOTE] xmlbeanscxx proposal (resubmitted)
From:       "Cezar Andrei" <cezar () bea ! com>
Date:       2006-09-18 19:51:26
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Schmidt [mailto:cliffschmidt@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:35 AM
> To: dev@xmlbeans.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] xmlbeanscxx proposal (resubmitted)
> 
> Please vote on the proposal below.  As a reminder, this is a
> resubmission of the original xmlbeanscxx project proposed last year by
> a somewhat different set of committers and a different initial code
> base (which started to happen after it was originally accepted but
> before the project actually got started at Apache).  I have agreed to
> mentor this project with the unofficial help of Ken Tam and David
> Waite
> 
> The vote will close on Monday at 23:59 PDT / Tuesday at 06:59 UTC.
> 
> Cliff
> 
> 
> On 7/18/06, Allen Brookes <abrookes@roguewave.com> wrote:
> > I've included the proposal below.  It hasn't changed but I have
> > confirmed with people at Touk that the initial committers are
correct.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> > This is a proposal for an xmlbeans subproject which should be
discussed
> > here
> > and voted on at the xmlbeans PMC.  This is a modification of an
earlier
> > proposal (May 15, 2005).  This proposal is being resubmitted on the
> > advice
> > of Cliff Schmidt.  The nature of the proposal changed when the
company
> > Touk
> > offered to submit their xmlbeansxx code base as the initial code.
In
> > order
> > to move the project along as quickly as possible, we have elected to
> > take
> > full advantage of the Touk existing code and resources.  One result
of
> > these
> > changes is the need for developers at Touk to act as committers.
> > Because
> > adding committers is done on the basis of merit, and because there
is no
> > basis yet for judging merit on this project, Cliff has advised us to
> > start
> > over with a new proposal.
> >
> >
> > Proposal to create a C++ version of the Apache XMLBeans project
> >
> > Submission date: ?? March 2006, Allen Brookes, (abrookes @ RogueWave
> > dot-com)
> >
> > (0) rationale
> >
> > Apache currently maintains the XMLBeans/Java project, a tool that
uses
> > XML Schema as a basis for generating Java classes used to easily
access
> > XML instance data. The goal of the XMLBeans/C++ project is to
provide a
> > very similar user experience for C++ developers as that provided by
the
> > XMLBeans/Java version. This includes generating strongly-typed C++
> > classes for the XML binding as well as providing low-level C++ APIs
> > enabling access to the raw, underlying XML content. Where possible,
the
> > XMLBeans/C++ project will provide a nearly identical API and
parallel
> > architecture to that provided by the Java counterpart, and will
closely
> > mimic both features and schedule.
> >
> > The project will be jump started with the contribution of
xmlbeansxx, a
> > partial C++ implementation of XMLBeans from Touk
> > (http://touk.pl/web/en/index.html).  Rogue Wave Software will help
jump
> > start this project by contributing considerable expertise in the
area of
> > XML data bindings in C++ and C++ expertise in general.
> >
> >
> > (0.1) criteria
> >
> > Meritocracy: The C++ version of the project should adhere to the
same
> > open, merit-based community standards as other Apache projects.
> >
> > Contributions and Core Developers: Code being contributed is an open
> > source partial implementation of XMLBeans in C++ created by Touk.
> >
> > The community should be able to immediately jump in and begin work,
> > along side dedicated Touk and Rogue Wave personnel, to turn the
initial
> > contribution into a feature-compatible version of XMLBeans for C++.
> >
> > Community: The community around the Java version of XMLBeans is
already
> > vibrant and growing. There is every reason to believe many of those
> > within the existing community have experience and/or general
interest in
> > a successful, compatible C++ implementation of the toolset. This
should
> > ensure an immediately active and vocal community, even if the
primary
> > interest is in ensuring a similar experience between versions. The
> > original contribution for this project has been around for some time
and
> > has generated some interest already.
> >
> > Additionally, at least one member of an existing Apache project has
> > expressed interest in a project like XMLBeans/C++ to aid in his
current
> > work. Higher-level projects such as Axis for C++ seem to be natural
> > beneficiaries of this work.
> >
> >
> > (0.2) known risks
> >
> > Orphaned Products: The xmlbeansxx project has been around for some
time
> > now and development has been active throughout this time.  There is
> > every reason to expect that this commitment will continue after the
> > transition to Apache.
> >
> > Inexperience with Open Source: Rogue Wave has been gaining
experience
> > with open source through the cxx standard library project.  Touk has
had
> > experience with open source through the xmlbeanscxx project.
> >
> > Initial Reliance on Salaried Workers: Due to the rapid process of
> > transitioning to work on the open source XMLBeans/C++ project, the
> > listed contributors are all inside the commercial realm. We expect
this
> > list of external volunteers to grow significantly after the initial
> > public code drop.
> >
> > Licensing, Patents, Miscellaneous Legal: Files in the contributed
code
> > include open source licenses.  Legal review will be needed to
determine
> > if this is sufficient.
> >
> >
> > (1) scope of the subproject
> >
> > The XMLBeans/C++ subproject will conform to the identical scope as
that
> > laid out for the partner Java project. Special care will be taken to
> > implement features and add conveniences that would be expected by a
C++
> > developer.
> >
> >
> > (2) identify the initial source for subproject code
> >
> > The initial source for the subproject will be the xmlbeanxx project
from
> > Touk.  Some background information may be found on this product at:
> >
> > Xmlbeansxx home page (http://xmlbeansxx.touk.pl)
> >
> >
> > (3) identify the ASF resources to be created
> >
> >
> > (3.1) mailing list(s)
> >
> > cxx-dev
> >
> > cxx-user
> >
> > cxx-commits
> >
> >
> >
> > (3.2) SVN repositories
> >
> > xml-xmlbeanscxx
> >
> >
> > (3.3) Bugzilla
> >
> > xml xmlbeanscxx
> >
> >
> > (4.0) identify the initial set of committers
> >
> > This is a preliminary list that will be updated with volunteer
members.
> >
> > Allen Brookes (ABrookes @ RogueWave dot-com)
> >
> > David Haney (David.Haney @ RogueWave dot-com)
> >
> > Tomasz Wielga (tw @ touk dot-pl)
> >
> > Rafal Rusin (rr @ touk dot-pl
> >
> >
> > (5) identify apache sponsoring individual
> >
> > Cliff Schmidt, of the XMLBeans/Java project, has volunteered to
sponsor
> > this project.
> >
> > Cliff Schmidt (CliffS @ Apache dot-org)
> >
> >
> > (6) open issues for discussion
> >
> > The original code contribution has an API that is very similar to
that
> > of the Java version.  However, there are parts of the API that have
not
> > yet been implemented that may be considered essential by users of
the
> > Java version wishing to migrate or co-develop applications.
> >
> > Addressing this deficiency is considered a high priority task for
the
> > C++ project.
> >
> > This task is currently underway at Touk and will be continued after
the
> > code has been contributed.
> >
> > The contributed C++ code is based on its own code generator. It is
> > probably desirable to consolidate both C++ and Java projects under
the
> > same code generator, most likely the one already included in the
Java
> > version of the XMLBeans.
> >
> > This is not considered a priority-1 task at this point, more of a
long
> > term goal and convenience. If it saves time in other priority tasks
it
> > will be looked at closely, however.
> >
> > Platform support
> >
> > Unlike Java, the C++ port will have significant issues around
platform
> > and compiler support. In order to help with this the project will be
> > using the C++ standard library, and may in fact benefit greatly from
the
> > proposed Apache C++ StdLib (STDCXX). Initially the native StdLib
will be
> > used.
> >
> > Good platform support will be very important so even the early
builds
> > should be done on Windows and Linux, and preferably at least one
Unix
> > variety. Long term the matrix should be very large.
> >
> >
> 
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