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List:       xmlbeans-dev
Subject:    RE: xmlbeanscxx proposal (resubmitted)
From:       "Jacob Danner" <jacobd () bea ! com>
Date:       2006-03-30 23:13:51
Message-ID: 99479F4D39C9244F8E17E688193A3DD85AB159 () repbex02 ! amer ! bea ! com
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I notice that the project has dependencies on other libraries (boost).
Will these libraries are included in dists or will download be required.
If the libraries will be included, is the Boost License compatible with
the apache license?

-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Schmidt [mailto:cliffschmidt@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:05 PM
To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
Cc: Allen Brookes; Martin Sebor
Subject: Re: xmlbeanscxx proposal (resubmitted)

Of course, I'm in support of this proposal.  Anyone have any concerns
to raise before we call it to a vote?

Cliff

On 3/29/06, Allen Brookes <abrookes@roguewave.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Please ignore the last note.  It was missing some final changes.
>
>
>
>
>
> This is a proposal for an xmlbeans subproject which should be
discussed here
> and voted on at the xmlbeans PMC.  This is a modification of an
earlier
> proposal (May 15, 2005).  This proposal is being resubmitted on the
advice
> of Cliff Schmidt.  The nature of the proposal changed when the company
Touk
> offered to submit their xmlbeansxx code base as the initial code.  In
order
> to move the project along as quickly as possible, we have elected to
take
> full advantage of the Touk existing code and resources.  One result of
these
> changes is the need for developers at Touk to act as committers.
Because
> adding committers is done on the basis of merit, and because there is
no
> basis yet for judging merit on this project, Cliff has advised us to
start
> over with a new proposal.
>
>
>
> Proposal to create a C++ version of the Apache XMLBeans project
>
>
>
> Submission date: 29 March 2006, Allen Brookes, (abrookes @ RogueWave
> dot-com)
>
>
>
> (0) rationale
>
>
>
> Apache currently maintains the XMLBeans/Java project, a tool that uses
XML
> Schema as a basis for generating Java classes used to easily access
XML
> instance data. The goal of the XMLBeans/C++ project is to provide a
very
> similar user experience for C++ developers as that provided by the
> XMLBeans/Java version. This includes generating strongly-typed C++
classes
> for the XML binding as well as providing low-level C++ APIs enabling
access
> to the raw, underlying XML content. Where possible, the XMLBeans/C++
project
> will provide a nearly identical API and parallel architecture to that
> provided by the Java counterpart, and will closely mimic both features
and
> schedule.
>
>
>
> The project will be jump started with the contribution of xmlbeansxx,
a
> partial C++ implementation of XMLBeans from Touk
> (http://touk.pl/web/en/index.html).  Rogue Wave Software
> will help jump start this project by contributing considerable
expertise in
> the area of XML data bindings in C++ and C++ expertise in general.
>
>
>
> (0.1) criteria
>
>
>
> Meritocracy: The C++ version of the project should adhere to the same
open,
> merit-based community standards as other Apache projects.
>
>
>
> Contributions and Core Developers: Code being contributed is an open
source
> partial implementation of XMLBeans in C++ created by Touk.
>
>
>
> The community should be able to immediately jump in and begin work,
along
> side dedicated Touk and Rogue Wave personnel, to turn the initial
> contribution into a feature-compatible version of XMLBeans for C++.
>
>
>
> Community: The community around the Java version of XMLBeans is
already
> vibrant and growing. There is every reason to believe many of those
within
> the existing community have experience and/or general interest in a
> successful, compatible C++ implementation of the toolset. This should
ensure
> an immediately active and vocal community, even if the primary
interest is
> in ensuring a similar experience between versions. The original
contribution
> for this project has been around for some time and has generated some
> interest already.
>
>
>
> Additionally, at least one member of an existing Apache project has
> expressed interest in a project like XMLBeans/C++ to aid in his
current
> work. Higher-level projects such as Axis for C++ seem to be natural
> beneficiaries of this work.
>
>
>
> (0.2) known risks
>
>
>
> Orphaned Products: The xmlbeansxx project has been around for some
time now
> and development has been active throughout this time.  There is every
reason
> to expect that this commitment will continue after the transition to
Apache.
>
>
>
> Inexperience with Open Source: Rogue Wave has been gaining experience
with
> open source through the STDCXX, The Apache C++ Standard Library,
currently
> undergoing incubation.  Touk has had experience with open source
through the
> xmlbeanscxx project.
>
>
>
> Initial Reliance on Salaried Workers: Due to the rapid process of
> transitioning to work on the open source XMLBeans/C++ project, the
listed
> contributors are all inside the commercial realm. We expect this list
of
> external volunteers to grow significantly after the initial public
code
> drop.
>
>
>
> Licensing, Patents, Miscellaneous Legal: Files in the contributed code
are
> already licensed under the Apache License, Version 2:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlbeansxx/.
>
>
>
> (1) scope of the subproject
>
>
>
> The XMLBeans/C++ subproject will conform to the identical scope as
that laid
> out for the partner Java project. Special care will be taken to
implement
> features and add conveniences that would be expected by a C++
developer.
>
>
>
> (2) identify the initial source for subproject code
>
>
>
> The initial source for the subproject will be the xmlbeanxx project
from
> Touk.  Some background information may be found on this product at:
>
>
>
> Xmlbeansxx home page (http://xmlbeansxx.touk.pl)
>
>
>
>
>
> (3) identify the ASF resources to be created (most of these have
already
> been created)
>
>
>
> (3.1) mailing list(s)
>
>
>
> cxx-dev@xmlbeans.apache.org
>
> cxx-user@xmlbeans.apache.org
>
> cxx-commits@xmlbeans.apache.org
>
>
>
> (3.2) SVN repositories
>
>
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/xmlbeanscxx/
>
>
>
> (3.3) Bugzilla
>
>
>
> The XMLBeans/C++ bug tracking database (key XBC) is in Jira:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBC
>
>
>
> (4.0) identify the initial set of committers
>
>
>
> This is a preliminary list that will be updated with volunteer
members.
>
>
>
> Allen Brookes (abrookes @ roguewave dot-com)
>
> David Haney (david.haney @ roguewave dot-com)
>
> Tomasz Wielga (tw @ touk dot-pl)
>
> Rafal Rusin (rr @ touk dot-pl
>
>
>
> (5) identify apache sponsoring individual
>
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt, of the XMLBeans/Java project, has volunteered to
sponsor this
> project.
>
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt (CliffS @ Apache dot-org)
>
>
>
> (6) open issues for discussion
>
>
>
> The original code contribution has an API that is very similar to that
of
> the Java version.  However, there are parts of the API that have not
yet
> been implemented that may be considered essential by users of the Java
> version wishing to migrate or co-develop applications.
>
>
>
> Addressing this deficiency is considered a high priority task for the
C++
> project.
>
>
>
> This task is currently underway at Touk and will be continued after
the code
> has been contributed.
>
>
>
> The contributed C++ code is based on its own code generator. It is
probably
> desirable to consolidate both C++ and Java projects under the same
code
> generator, most likely the one already included in the Java version of
the
> XMLBeans.
>
>
>
> This is not considered a priority-1 task at this point, more of a long
term
> goal and convenience. If it saves time in other priority tasks it will
be
> looked at closely, however.
>
>
>
> Platform support
>
> Unlike Java, the C++ port will have significant issues around platform
and
> compiler support. In order to help with this the project will be using
the
> C++ standard library, and may in fact benefit greatly from STDCXX, The
> Apache C++ Standard Library, currently in incubation.  Initially the
native
> StdLib will be used.
>
>
>
> Good platform support will be very important so even the early builds
should
> be done on Windows and Linux, and preferably at least one Unix
variety. Long
> term the matrix should be very large.
>
>
>
>

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