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Subject: RE: Forms builder
From: "Konovalov, Oleg " <oleg.konovalov () citi ! com>
Date: 2009-02-26 15:38:27
Message-ID: E49763814AF68244955B2F6C873028931686D52D34 () exnjmb80 ! nam ! nsroot ! net
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I think, that project died about 2006 :-(
Pity !
Oleg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeroen Reijn [mailto:j.reijn@onehippo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:25 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Cc: 'Job van Ommen'
Subject: Re: Forms builder
Hi Oleg,
as far as I can remember there used to be an eclipse plugin for Cocoon forms, which \
could be used to create forms. See [1] for more information. I'm not really sure it \
the project still exists/is alive, but there was an effort to create something like \
it.
[1]http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-lepido/
Regards,
Jeroen
Konovalov, Oleg wrote:
> Job,
>
> What I need is a Forms Builder tool (probably visual stylesheet
> editor, so non-tech user can take XML Schema, select elements he
> needs, lay them on the screen, add some validations including
> individual fields and field1+field2+...=total) and be able to submit that info to \
> the host.
> That's what Altova StyleVision does, but it's only ActiveX/IE.
>
> AFAIK, there is no tool like that in Cocoon world (if not, please
> correct me!) It probably should be an Eclpse plugin, I can't build it
> myself. :-(
>
> Chiba doesn't have such tool.
> Orbeon has Forms Builder in alpha (can't even save generated Xforms file yet).
>
> IBM free Visual Xforms Designer/XML Form Generator seem to be in beta
> and long abandoned (Eclipse 3.2 only)
>
> I started looking at IBM Lotus Forms (eForms). Any idea about it ?
> Does it require some IBM servers (e.g. WS portal)?
>
> Thank you,
> Oleg.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job van Ommen [mailto:jobvanommen@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:53 AM
> To: Konovalov, Oleg [CMB-IT]
> Cc: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Forms builder
>
> Dear Oleg,
>
> The reason I decided not to use chiba is the exact reason you mention.
> Altho I did get the demo working, and I found the chibacookbook. In the past there \
> was a project called chicoon integrating Chiba with cocoon. But that was a long \
> time ago with older versions.
> I did play with the Orbeon form builder, my first impression was that it was very \
> promising. But because XFORMS aren't widely accepted yet I saw no need in using \
> them while there was a perfectly good form solution within cocoon.
> So the question you should probably be asking yourself is do I want cocoon, or just \
> a form utility?
>
> Regards,
>
> Job
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Konovalov, Oleg <oleg.konovalov@citi.com> wrote:
> > Job,
> >
> > I was able to get a fair amount of info on Orbeon, but on Chiba -
> > it's almost nothing: most links are broken (demo, etc.), I can't
> > gather much at all. Could you recommend a good source of info?
> >
> > Have you tried Orbeon Form Builder ? What's your impression ?
> >
> > Have you tried Lotus Forms ?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Oleg.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Job van Ommen [mailto:jobvanommen@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:42 AM
> > To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms builder
> >
> > If you are looking for XForm tools you should check out orbeon and chiba. They \
> > are both pretty decent.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Job
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Konovalov, Oleg <oleg.konovalov@citi.com> wrote:
> > > Derek,
> > >
> > > When you say that all layout is done by stylesheets, do you mean XSL or CSS ?
> > > If so, how do I build the stylesheet graphically [more in Design mode]?
> > > My users will not be programmers,
> > > so I would like to avoid exposing them to some heavy coding.
> > >
> > > Also, I've heard of Xforms, but that it's not supported by IE6&7 (is
> > > it true?)
> > >
> > > Could anyone compare CForms and XForms ?
> > > Any tools for them ?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Oleg.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Derek Hohls [mailto:DHohls@csir.co.za]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:17 AM
> > > To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms builder
> > >
> > > Oleg
> > >
> > > I am not quite sure why you want to build a form graphically - given that all \
> > > the layout is done by stylesheets? The forms essentially only contain the \
> > > field definition and any logic required to validate or alter/display their \
> > > values. FWIW, I have a small Python program that creates basic forms (and the \
> > > logic my app uses to manipulate them) from an SQL statement.
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > > > > On 2009/02/19 at 11:59, in message \
> > > > > > <11CDA457FC6A6A49A77F7F867F0F5DE109E83DD2@EXNJMB71.nam.nsroot.net>, \
> > > > > > "Konovalov, Oleg " <oleg.konovalov@citi.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Are you aware of any tool which allows to build CForms graphically, similar to \
> > > how many Eclipse plugins ? We have a limited set of XML fields, need to create \
> > > (or find) a tool to build forms through the GUI for non-programmers. If not, \
> > > how would you build such a tool, any building blocks ? Any help is very \
> > > appreciated. TIA,
> > > Oleg Konovalov
> > > Email: oleg.konovalov@citi.com
> > >
> > >
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