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Subject:    Re: [XFree86] Re: X 4.3 Freezes Computer when restarting
From:       Ken Stanley <kstanley () teamzx ! com>
Date:       2003-03-16 20:07:24
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 08:55, Michel Dänzer wrote:

    On Son, 2003-03-16 at 10:50, Ken Stanley wrote:
    > On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 04:25, Tom Wesley wrote: 
    >         >     On 16 Mar 2003, Ken Stanley wrote:
    >         >     >When I try to restart X 4.3 my computer freezes completely after the
    >         >     >screen goes blank. Something about X is not shutting down properly. I
    >         >     >use Gnome 2.2, but it can't be that because this also occured when
    >         >     > using twm as the window manager. What could cause X to behave this
    >         >     > way?
    >         
    >         Are you using the framebuffer? That can sometimes freeze when leaving x.
    
    That's news to me.
    
    > I don't believe so. The only frame buffer I know about is when I use
    > the vga option from LILO -- and up until an hour ago I couldn't use
    > LILO because my mainboard didn't recognize my hard drive. I flashed my
    > BIOS to fix that, also in hopes to fix X somehow. Didn't fix X. But I
    > did find out that it has no problem using a different video
    > card/mainboard/cpu. Could it somehow be a conflict between the savage
    > driver and GDM?
    
    No, but there tend to be problems on server reset because those code
    paths are only rarely tested in the drivers - see the recent threads
    about lockups on server reset with the radeon driver.
    
    Restarting the server instead of only resetting it usually works around
    these problems; for gdm, set
    
    AlwaysRestartServer=true
    
    in gdm.conf to achieve that.
    
    
    -- 
    Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
    XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast
    
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Actually in the latest version of GDM it's default to restart the
server:

<snipet from gdm.conf>
# If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time
and
# want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
# Note: I've made this default to true now because there seem to be some
# issues ranging from some things not being reset in the X server to
# pam issues with the slave.  It is likely that this feature may be
removed
# in the future and we're always going to do server restarts.
</snipet>

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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 08:55, Michel D&#228;nzer wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On Son, 2003-03-16 at 10:50, Ken Stanley \
wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; On Sun, \
2003-03-16 at 04:25, Tom Wesley wrote: </FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         &gt;     On 16 Mar 2003, Ken Stanley \
wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         &gt;    \
&gt;When I try to restart X 4.3 my computer freezes completely after \
the</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         &gt;     \
&gt;screen goes blank. Something about X is not shutting down properly. \
I</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         &gt;     \
&gt;use Gnome 2.2, but it can't be that because this also occured \
when</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         &gt;     \
&gt; using twm as the window manager. What could cause X to behave \
this</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         &gt;     \
&gt; way?</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         \
</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;         Are you using \
the framebuffer? That can sometimes freeze when leaving x.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>That's news to me.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; I don't \
believe so. The only frame buffer I know about is when I use</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; the vga option from LILO -- and up until an \
hour ago I couldn't use</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>&gt; LILO because my mainboard didn't recognize my hard drive. I flashed \
my</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; BIOS to fix that, \
also in hopes to fix X somehow. Didn't fix X. But I</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; did find out that it has no problem using a \
different video</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; \
card/mainboard/cpu. Could it somehow be a conflict between the \
savage</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; driver and \
GDM?</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>No, but there tend to be problems on server \
reset because those code</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>paths are only rarely tested in the drivers - see the recent \
threads</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>about lockups on \
server reset with the radeon driver.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Restarting the \
server instead of only resetting it usually works around</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>these problems; for gdm, set</FONT></FONT></I> \
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>AlwaysRestartServer=true</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>in gdm.conf to achieve that.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>-- \
</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Earthling Michel \
D&#228;nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, \
Free Software enthusiast</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>XFree86 mailing list</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>XFree86@XFree86.Org</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> </PRE>
    </BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually in the latest version of GDM it's default to restart the server:
<BR>

<BR>
&lt;snipet from gdm.conf&gt;
<BR>
# If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and
<BR>
# want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
<BR>
# Note: I've made this default to true now because there seem to be some
<BR>
# issues ranging from some things not being reset in the X server to
<BR>
# pam issues with the slave.&nbsp; It is likely that this feature may be removed
<BR>
# in the future and we're always going to do server restarts.
<BR>
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