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Subject: Re: [XFree86] Re: X 4.3 Freezes Computer when restarting
From: Ken Stanley <kstanley () teamzx ! com>
Date: 2003-03-16 20:07:24
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 08:55, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Son, 2003-03-16 at 10:50, Ken Stanley wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 04:25, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > On 16 Mar 2003, Ken Stanley wrote:
> > >When I try to restart X 4.3 my computer freezes completely after the
> > >screen goes blank. Something about X is not shutting down properly. I
> > >use Gnome 2.2, but it can't be that because this also occured when
> > > using twm as the window manager. What could cause X to behave this
> > > way?
>
> Are you using the framebuffer? That can sometimes freeze when leaving x.
That's news to me.
> I don't believe so. The only frame buffer I know about is when I use
> the vga option from LILO -- and up until an hour ago I couldn't use
> LILO because my mainboard didn't recognize my hard drive. I flashed my
> BIOS to fix that, also in hopes to fix X somehow. Didn't fix X. But I
> did find out that it has no problem using a different video
> card/mainboard/cpu. Could it somehow be a conflict between the savage
> driver and GDM?
No, but there tend to be problems on server reset because those code
paths are only rarely tested in the drivers - see the recent threads
about lockups on server reset with the radeon driver.
Restarting the server instead of only resetting it usually works around
these problems; for gdm, set
AlwaysRestartServer=true
in gdm.conf to achieve that.
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XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
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Actually in the latest version of GDM it's default to restart the
server:
<snipet from gdm.conf>
# If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time
and
# want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
# Note: I've made this default to true now because there seem to be some
# issues ranging from some things not being reset in the X server to
# pam issues with the slave. It is likely that this feature may be
removed
# in the future and we're always going to do server restarts.
</snipet>
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 08:55, Michel Dänzer wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On Son, 2003-03-16 at 10:50, Ken Stanley \
wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> On Sun, \
2003-03-16 at 04:25, Tom Wesley wrote: </FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> > On 16 Mar 2003, Ken Stanley \
wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > \
>When I try to restart X 4.3 my computer freezes completely after \
the</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > \
>screen goes blank. Something about X is not shutting down properly. \
I</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > \
>use Gnome 2.2, but it can't be that because this also occured \
when</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > \
> using twm as the window manager. What could cause X to behave \
this</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > \
> way?</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> Are you using \
the framebuffer? That can sometimes freeze when leaving x.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>That's news to me.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> I don't \
believe so. The only frame buffer I know about is when I use</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> the vga option from LILO -- and up until an \
hour ago I couldn't use</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> LILO because my mainboard didn't recognize my hard drive. I flashed \
my</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> BIOS to fix that, \
also in hopes to fix X somehow. Didn't fix X. But I</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> did find out that it has no problem using a \
different video</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
card/mainboard/cpu. Could it somehow be a conflict between the \
savage</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> driver and \
GDM?</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>No, but there tend to be problems on server \
reset because those code</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>paths are only rarely tested in the drivers - see the recent \
threads</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>about lockups on \
server reset with the radeon driver.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Restarting the \
server instead of only resetting it usually works around</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>these problems; for gdm, set</FONT></FONT></I> \
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>AlwaysRestartServer=true</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>in gdm.conf to achieve that.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>-- \
</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Earthling Michel \
Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, \
Free Software enthusiast</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>XFree86 mailing list</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>XFree86@XFree86.Org</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> </PRE>
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Actually in the latest version of GDM it's default to restart the server:
<BR>
<BR>
<snipet from gdm.conf>
<BR>
# If you are having trouble with using a single server for a long time and
<BR>
# want gdm to kill/restart the server, turn this on
<BR>
# Note: I've made this default to true now because there seem to be some
<BR>
# issues ranging from some things not being reset in the X server to
<BR>
# pam issues with the slave. It is likely that this feature may be removed
<BR>
# in the future and we're always going to do server restarts.
<BR>
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