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Subject: Re: [XFree86] Re: X 4.3 Freezes Computer when restarting
From: Ken Stanley <kstanley () teamzx ! com>
Date: 2003-03-16 9:50:33
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 04:25, Tom Wesley wrote:
On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:04, Ken Stanley wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 01:42, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
> On 16 Mar 2003, Ken Stanley wrote:
> >When I try to restart X 4.3 my computer freezes completely after the
> >screen goes blank. Something about X is not shutting down properly. I
> >use Gnome 2.2, but it can't be that because this also occured when
> > using twm as the window manager. What could cause X to behave this
> > way?
>
> Try disabling your sound card, so that sound drivers do not load
> at all. Then try starting and stopping X. If that solves it,
> then the sound drivers are potentially buggy.
>
>
> Actually, I don't have sound enabled already because this computer
> doesn't have a sound card. And when I tried compiling a new kernel I
> didn't compile sound drivers. I turned them off.
>
> Another common problem is APM. Disable APM in your BIOS, and
> disable apmd from being loaded at OS boot time.
>
> Same as above, I don't have it, disabled it, and did not compile it in
> the customer kernel. Someone on another forum suggested it might be a
> hardware issue and to see if there is an update to my BIOS. I am going
> to try that first. Another thing I can try is to switch the hard drive
> out with the Windows 2000 machine and try to load X that way... that
> would definately tell if it's hardware.
>
>
> If neither suggestion works, it could be an X bug possibly, or
> perhaps something else.
>
> --
> Mike A. Harris
Are you using the framebuffer? That can sometimes freeze when leaving x.
Tom
I don't believe so. The only frame buffer I know about is when I use the
vga option from LILO -- and up until an hour ago I couldn't use LILO
because my mainboard didn't recognize my hard drive. I flashed my BIOS
to fix that, also in hopes to fix X somehow. Didn't fix X. But I did
find out that it has no problem using a different video
card/mainboard/cpu. Could it somehow be a conflict between the savage
driver and GDM? I feel like I've made progress, but I'm not sure how
much or in which direction.
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 04:25, Tom Wesley wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:04, Ken \
Stanley wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> On Sun, \
2003-03-16 at 01:42, Mike A. Harris wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> On 16 Mar 2003, Ken Stanley wrote:</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> >When I try to restart X 4.3 my \
computer freezes completely after the</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> >screen goes blank. Something about X is not shutting down \
properly. I</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
>use Gnome 2.2, but it can't be that because this also occured \
when</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > using \
twm as the window manager. What could cause X to behave this</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > way?</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> Try disabling your sound card, so that sound drivers do not \
load</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> at all. Then \
try starting and stopping X. If that solves it,</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> then the sound drivers are potentially \
buggy.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
Actually, I don't have sound enabled already because this computer</FONT></FONT></I> \
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> doesn't have a sound card. And when I \
tried compiling a new kernel I</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> didn't compile sound drivers. I turned them off.</FONT></FONT></I> \
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> Another common problem is APM. Disable \
APM in your BIOS, and</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
disable apmd from being loaded at OS boot time.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> Same as above, I don't have it, disabled it, and did not compile it \
in</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> the customer \
kernel. Someone on another forum suggested it might be a</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> hardware issue and to see if there is an \
update to my BIOS. I am going</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>> to try that first. Another thing I can try is to switch the hard \
drive</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> out with the \
Windows 2000 machine and try to load X that way... that</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT \
COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> would definately tell if it's \
hardware.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
If neither suggestion works, it could be an X bug possibly, or</FONT></FONT></I> \
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> perhaps something \
else.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> \
--</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> Mike A. \
Harris</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Are you using the framebuffer? That can \
sometimes freeze when leaving x.</FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT \
SIZE="3"><I>Tom</FONT></FONT></I> </PRE>
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I don't believe so. The only frame buffer I know about is when I use the vga option \
from LILO -- and up until an hour ago I couldn't use LILO because my mainboard didn't \
recognize my hard drive. I flashed my BIOS to fix that, also in hopes to fix X \
somehow. Didn't fix X. But I did find out that it has no problem using a different \
video card/mainboard/cpu. Could it somehow be a conflict between the savage driver \
and GDM? I feel like I've made progress, but I'm not sure how much or in which \
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