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List:       xfree-i18n
Subject:    Re: [I18n]Decent french keyboad layout in XFree86
From:       Nicolas Mailhot <Nicolas.Mailhot () laposte ! net>
Date:       2002-12-24 9:10:34
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Le jeu 12/12/2002 à 15:55, Pablo Saratxaga a écrit :
> Kaixo!
> 
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:54:20PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> 
> > 	For years the fr keyboard in xfree86 was broken and painful to use (I
> > can elaborate a *lot* more if anyone's interested).
> 
> Well, you should indeed elaborate a bit... I haven't seen anything wrong
> with the standard "fr" keyboard for ages.

- whoever did the azerty/qwerty mods didn't bother to keep « and »
together.
- no access to oe without compose (and you know how compose feels for a
newcomer)

> It follows the standard layout, that is, it behaves the same as in other
> operating systems. It defines what is actually printed on the keys of
> real keyboards as available in French stores.
> 
> > the francophones-howto aka the french-howto)
> 
> The layouts listed there are often non-standard; they may be usefull,
> they may be preferred layouts by some people, but they are not standard.

I admit this layout deviates from what's printed on a common keyboard
for two rarely used symbols (square and international currency unit)

> It may be interesting to add it to standard XFree86 distribution, but it
> should imho be labelled as "French keyboard", but instead something
> like "Alternate French keyboard" or "Extended French keyboard".
> There are differences.

===================================================================
RCS file: /xf86/anoncvs/cvs/xc/programs/xkbcomp/rules/xfree86.lst,v
retrieving revision 3.55
retrieving revision 3.56
diff -u -p -r3.55 -r3.56
--- xc/programs/xkbcomp/rules/xfree86.lst	2002/12/17 21:45:03	3.55
+++ xc/programs/xkbcomp/rules/xfree86.lst	2002/12/20 02:07:11	3.56
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 //  Rules descriptions for XFree86
 //  Copyright 1996 by Joseph Moss
 //
-//  $XFree86: xc/programs/xkbcomp/rules/xfree86.lst,v 3.54 2002/12/17 21:35:07 dawes Exp $
+//  $XFree86: xc/programs/xkbcomp/rules/xfree86.lst,v 3.55 2002/12/17 21:45:03 dawes Exp $
 
 ! model
   pc101		Generic 101-key PC
@@ -127,6 +127,7 @@
   ir		Farsi
   fi		Finnish
   fr		French
+  fr-latin9	French (alternative)
   fr_CH		Swiss French
   ge_la		Georgian (latin)
   ge_ru		Georgian (russian)

> Also, all references to "latin9" should be removed; an X11 keyboard
> layout is independent of any charset encoding.

This was mainly to keep the usual name and the one used my kbd, for
example. Plus X11 keyboard layout  may be independent of any charset
encoding but the fonts installed on any given system are not.

If you feel this is a big issue and have a better name, just tell me.
I'll do the X and kbd patch (though kbd releases are so rare people
might not see it before a few years)

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

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